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  Structure, size and elections of Senate/House (Debating) (search mode)
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tmthforu94
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« on: October 28, 2015, 10:48:30 pm »

Ultimately it is a nice idea, but I find it to be unpractical at this point.

What legislative system do you support?

[ ] Bicameralism
[X] Unicameralism
[ ] Abstain
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tmthforu94
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E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 06:04:44 pm »

I am interested in getting a concrete idea on what this will look like - that was my main concern with voting for bicameralism.
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tmthforu94
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 12:24:34 am »

I know I am just one person, but I had a completely different mindset when I was Mideast senator than when I was At-Large senator. As at-large, I became more partisan as the voting block that put me into office was center-right voters. As Mideast senator, my constituency was every voter in my region, so that is who I would go to gain feedback on legislation - it also came up a couple times on regional specific issues, such as a stimulus package.

At least, that is how it is supposed to be done, I think.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 09:33:04 am »

A couple questions:
- How would you recommend changing this if the VP position isn't abolished?
- Why did you settle on 11 representatives and not a lower number, which would appease those concerned that we have too many positions?
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tmthforu94
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 10:47:16 am »

There are some good things in this plan.
But I cannot support it: I don't like the idea of the president having the power of breaking the tie. The president is a member of the executive power, not the legislative power.
Keep the VP, the one who will break the tie.
Yes, I agree.


So I oppose this amendment because I don't like the idea of the president of breaking the tie.
What about making the Vice President a senator and then lowering the amount of members in the House? I find that acceptable, personally.
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tmthforu94
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 11:38:01 am »
« Edited: October 31, 2015, 12:26:41 pm by All In For The Royals »

I don't feel comfortable with us voting so quickly after an amendment that would fundamentally transform the game has been introduced and is being discussed.

Abstain for now, though I may edit my vote after giving it more consideration.

Aye
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tmthforu94
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2015, 12:18:55 am »
« Edited: November 12, 2015, 03:58:25 pm by tmthforu94 »

Folks should probably do STV voting - I don't think we should "pass" a principle vote unless it receives 50%+1 of overall votes.

1. D
2. A
3. C
4. B

#regionalrights I think all regions will likely elect to have a popular vote, but this is another example of the federal government meddling into the region's business. Let them decide!!!!!!
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tmthforu94
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E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 08:41:54 pm »

1. 9
2. 11
3. 7
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tmthforu94
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E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2015, 07:49:45 pm »

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Well, if we are doing the Senate via regions, I would be open to electing these seats via at-large.
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tmthforu94
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 05:46:41 pm »

[quote]
OFFICIAL BALLOT
Principle Vote on Fluctuating House Membership
Should the number of seats in the House of Representatives fluctuate in proportion to the number of candidates in the most recent election?
[   ] YES
[X] NO
[   ] Abstain

Principle Vote on House Elections
How should the House of Representatives be elected? (Please use STV)
[1] At-Large
[2] Regionally
[3] From Districts
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tmthforu94
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Posts: 21,122
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2015, 06:28:14 pm »

Aye
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tmthforu94
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Political Matrix
E: 2.97, S: -1.57

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2016, 12:06:21 am »

Aye
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