Should Schumer, Menendez and Cardin all be primaried?
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2015, 11:14:07 AM »

Dear God, Progressives are as ideologically rigid as the Tea Party.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2015, 11:24:25 AM »

Yes, and so should Manchin. I don't give a  about electability in a red state if the candidate who is "electable" is basically a republican.

But he's not basically a Republican. Yes, he's relatively conservative compared to most Democrats, but I would pick him over a WV Republican any day.
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2015, 11:52:42 AM »

Melendez should, and probably in due course, will be forced, to resign. No, as to the other two. They came to their decision in good faith, and it was not an easy decision for them. Moreover, without seeing the side letters, if I were in the Senate, it would be an automatic no unless and until I saw them. Period.
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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2015, 11:57:42 AM »

For the record, I have also been calling out the moron wing/Tea Party wing of my party as well.

They're almost definitely the reason we don't have 60 seats in the Senate and this conversation is even happening, for one thing.
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2015, 12:16:08 PM »

Dear God, Progressives are as ideologically rigid as the Tea Party.

I'm not at all ideologically rigid, but I think there needs to be one party for sane foreign policy. I'm not okay with Democrats who really have no business undermining it doing so.
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2015, 12:37:21 PM »

Jews don't seem to be welcome anymore in the Democratic Party, that's clear. A sad thing.
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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2015, 01:41:49 PM »

Jews don't seem to be welcome anymore in the Democratic Party, that's clear. A sad thing.
Just Netanyahu-appeasers.
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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2015, 03:24:43 PM »

Jews don't seem to be welcome anymore in the Democratic Party, that's clear. A sad thing.

Democrats want the Jews caring for Israel, i.e. not backing Bibi suicidal policies.
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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2015, 03:35:51 PM »

Menendez should have been 10 years ago. Cardin should have never won the primary over Mfume 10 years ago.

Schumer should be expelled from the leadership. It would depend on the opponent for him and Cardin on whether I would support a primary challenge, but potentially yes on both.
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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2015, 03:51:28 PM »

Schumer is the Democratic John McCain.

In all honesty, he shouldn't be "purged". Who replaces him? DeBlasio, the Democrat so extreme he's unelectable in New York? Cuomo, who is just as "corrupt" as Schumer? DiNapoli, who could lose to Christopher Cox?
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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2015, 03:55:19 PM »

Menendez because of his legal troubles.

But no, I don't think Cardin and Schumer should be primaried just because they disagreed with the president on one foreign policy vote.
Yeah that's the only reason you guys should want to primary Menendez since he is basically a reliable Dem Vote all the time. As a NJ voter I can't stand that by the way.

Cardin and Schumer: Neither of them are Moderates so why would you want to primary them?
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2015, 03:57:35 PM »

Schumer is the Democratic John McCain.

In all honesty, he shouldn't be "purged". Who replaces him? DeBlasio, the Democrat so extreme he's unelectable in New York? Cuomo, who is just as "corrupt" as Schumer? DiNapoli, who could lose to Christopher Cox?
Mitch McConnell I think would be the Republican that Schumer is more comparable too. Both McConnell and Schumer basically vote their party platforms but both aren't afraid of a compromise from time to time.
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2015, 05:35:29 PM »

Schumer is the Democratic John McCain.

In all honesty, he shouldn't be "purged". Who replaces him? DeBlasio, the Democrat so extreme he's unelectable in New York? Cuomo, who is just as "corrupt" as Schumer? DiNapoli, who could lose to Christopher Cox?

Most of this post is garbage analysis.
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2015, 05:39:28 PM »

Schumer is the Democratic John McCain.

In all honesty, he shouldn't be "purged". Who replaces him? DeBlasio, the Democrat so extreme he's unelectable in New York? Cuomo, who is just as "corrupt" as Schumer? DiNapoli, who could lose to Christopher Cox?

Ah, I nearly forgot there are only three Democratic politicians in the whole of New York!
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2015, 05:53:04 PM »

Dear God, Progressives are as ideologically rigid as the Tea Party.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2015, 06:30:22 PM »

Jews don't seem to be welcome anymore in the Democratic Party, that's clear. A sad thing.

I have a Jewish senator who I voted for last year. And in 2008.
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« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2015, 06:58:10 PM »

Yes, they should be primaried, but primarying Manchin would be stupid. He's pretty much the only D that can win here now.
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« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2015, 07:02:48 PM »

Manchin is terrible but he's the best we can expect from West Virginia. New York, New Jersey, and Maryland can do better though.

I reject this. Sure, the current Democratic Party is not a good fit for West Virginia, but the state is not inherently conservative by any means. The right left-wing arguments could sway it.
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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2015, 08:24:58 PM »

DeBlasio, the Democrat so extreme he's unelectable in New York?

In what alternate universe do you live?
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« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2015, 09:22:50 PM »

Lol this thread. If only Alan Grayson could run in multiple States.
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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2015, 09:29:51 PM »

DeBlasio, the Democrat so extreme he's unelectable in New York?

In what alternate universe do you live?

Literally, you'd have to run a hard right-wing Republican as a Democrat in New York in order for a Democrat to lose a senate race.
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« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2015, 09:50:31 PM »

Manchin is terrible but he's the best we can expect from West Virginia. New York, New Jersey, and Maryland can do better though.

I reject this. Sure, the current Democratic Party is not a good fit for West Virginia, but the state is not inherently conservative by any means. The right left-wing arguments could sway it.

The problem is when West Virginians realize that what you're telling the other states (for example the states that like environmentalism more), isn't the same as what you're telling their state.
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« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2015, 01:07:08 AM »

Manchin is terrible but he's the best we can expect from West Virginia. New York, New Jersey, and Maryland can do better though.

I reject this. Sure, the current Democratic Party is not a good fit for West Virginia, but the state is not inherently conservative by any means. The right left-wing arguments could sway it.

Oh, I would welcome a way for left-wing, environmentalist ideology (that doesn't destroy the local economy) to take hold in West Virginia, but I don't think primarying Joe Manchin is the most strategic way to do it.

Manchin is terrible but he's the best we can expect from West Virginia. New York, New Jersey, and Maryland can do better though.

I reject this. Sure, the current Democratic Party is not a good fit for West Virginia, but the state is not inherently conservative by any means. The right left-wing arguments could sway it.

The problem is when West Virginians realize that what you're telling the other states (for example the states that like environmentalism more), isn't the same as what you're telling their state.

I think PJ is saying that a left-wing ideology (including environmentalism) can appeal to West Virginia, not just the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party can't win anything in West Virginia, then Manchin is in serious trouble, primary or no primary.
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« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2015, 01:08:04 AM »

Anyway, what is it about Bill de Blasio that conservatives hate so much?
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« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2015, 03:06:39 AM »

Ridiculous that 3 of the bluest states in the country have these treasonous warmongers.
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