Pros and cons to a Rubio/Kasich ticket

[Suburbia]

What would be the pros and cons of a Rubio/Kasich ticket? It seems like the most electable ticket that the Republicans can offer the U.S., but do they have any downsides?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Pros:

1.  Should carry OH and FL

2.  Ideologically compatible.

3.  New faces; not Bushes.

4.  Rubio's Hispanic background a big plus.


Cons:

1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

2.  Neither guy is anyone's 1st choice.

3.  Ticket appears to be a calculated compromise based on the electoral map.

4.  Ticket lacks ability to generate excitement.


I think the pros outweigh the cons.  I think Kasich/Rubio is more credible than Rubio/Kasich, but Marco is certainly getting more traction than Kasich at this point.

[edtorres04]

Women, black voters, western appeal, appeal to Jewish voters are cons.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Women, black voters, western appeal, appeal to Jewish voters are cons.

I believe that Jewish voters are slowly trending Republican, even though most are still Democrats.  I believe that this is a reaction to perceptions of Obama's policies, and of the move of American Muslims into the Democratic party, and I think that this very slow but definite movement of Jewish voters to the GOP will continue regardless of who is nominated.

[dudeabides]

Pro: Rubio

Con: Kasich

[Horsemask]

Pros:

1.  Should carry OH and FL

2.  Ideologically compatible.

3.  New faces; not Bushes.

4.  Rubio's Hispanic background a big plus.


Cons:

1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

2.  Neither guy is anyone's 1st choice.

3.  Ticket appears to be a calculated compromise based on the electoral map.

4.  Ticket lacks ability to generate excitement.


I think the pros outweigh the cons.  I think Kasich/Rubio is more credible than Rubio/Kasich, but Marco is certainly getting more traction than Kasich at this point.

I think this summed it up really well. Good job Fuzzy Bear

That being said, I'd vote this ticket in a heartbeat. Would prefer Kasich at top though.

[Kingpoleon]

.... What, is Ernst delivering the keynote address?

Usually, the greatest orator isn't at the top of the ticket. They usually serve as an energizing(not necessarily energetic) force at the bottom of the ticket or deliver the keynote address. Rubio wouldn't be able to be energizing enough to win without sounding un-presidential.

[bagelman]

Pros:

1.  Should carry OH and FL

2.  Ideologically compatible.

3.  New faces; not Bushes.

4.  Rubio's Hispanic background a big plus.


Cons:

1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

2.  Neither guy is anyone's 1st choice.

3.  Ticket appears to be a calculated compromise based on the electoral map.

4.  Ticket lacks ability to generate excitement.


I think the pros outweigh the cons.  I think Kasich/Rubio is more credible than Rubio/Kasich, but Marco is certainly getting more traction than Kasich at this point.

I think this summed it up really well. Good job Fuzzy Bear

That being said, I'd vote this ticket in a heartbeat. Would prefer Kasich at top though.

Kasich has more executive experience and more moderate appeal than Rubio. Rubio is younger and can gain experience, under Kasich he could become the next Nixon or Bush Sr. Rubio can also keep conservatives from fleeing away from the moderate Kasich. I don't see how Kasich/Rubio isn't better than Rubio/Kasich.

[dudeabides]

Pro: Rubio

Con: Kasich

How is Kasich a con? Is it because he's no Bush? That's a pro, not a con.

Pros:

1.  Should carry OH and FL

2.  Ideologically compatible.

3.  New faces; not Bushes.

4.  Rubio's Hispanic background a big plus.


Cons:

1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

2.  Neither guy is anyone's 1st choice.

3.  Ticket appears to be a calculated compromise based on the electoral map.

4.  Ticket lacks ability to generate excitement.


I think the pros outweigh the cons.  I think Kasich/Rubio is more credible than Rubio/Kasich, but Marco is certainly getting more traction than Kasich at this point.

I totally agree with this.

It's a con because 19 of his 22 cabinet officials are/were white middle-aged males and that's all we'll hear on television regularly if he's the nominee. It's a con because he said that the way to appeal to ordinary people is to remind them he fought for a balanced budget while in congress. It's a con because he uses his faith to justify expanding the welfare state. Also, I'm sure the Democrats would love a GOP nominee who opposes medical marijuana.

[Mehmentum]

Pros: Probably the strongest ticket the GOP has.

Cons: Actually getting one of those two nominated.

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Pros:

1.  Should carry OH and FL

2.  Ideologically compatible.

3.  New faces; not Bushes.

4.  Rubio's Hispanic background a big plus.


Cons:

1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

2.  Neither guy is anyone's 1st choice.

3.  Ticket appears to be a calculated compromise based on the electoral map.

4.  Ticket lacks ability to generate excitement.


I think the pros outweigh the cons.  I think Kasich/Rubio is more credible than Rubio/Kasich, but Marco is certainly getting more traction than Kasich at this point.

Seems 'bout right.

[Suburbia]

Rubio / Kasich ticket would be dull and blnd, but effective.

[Bigby]

The beauty of this ticket is making me curse the influence of the Tea Party as we speak.

[ScottieF]

Best ticket Republicans could come up with. Would potentially beat Hillary, albeit by a ridiculously close margin in the electoral college.

[The Other Castro]

The 2nd best ticket Republicans could create, just behind Kasich/Rubio IMO, but both are pretty close.

[Leinad]

Cons:
1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

I agree with the rest of your post, but having the younger guy leading the ticket worked well for Kennedy/Johnson and Obama/Biden. I'm not convinced that it's a con. Having a younger Presidential candidate could help the Republicans given that the Democratic candidate will be rather old, be it Clinton, Biden, Sanders, or even Gore.

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

Women, black voters, western appeal, appeal to Jewish voters are cons.

I believe that Jewish voters are slowly trending Republican, even though most are still Democrats.  I believe that this is a reaction to perceptions of Obama's policies, and of the move of American Muslims into the Democratic party, and I think that this very slow but definite movement of Jewish voters to the GOP will continue regardless of who is nominated.

Yup.  College liberals are overwhelmingly anti-Israel, so I think that pro-Israel Jews will likely move to the GOP in the future.

[Blue3]

This is probably the best possible outcome for the GOP this year.

[Clark Kent]

I like Rubio better, but I think a Kasich/Rubio ticket would be better than the other way around.

[DavidB.]

Women, black voters, western appeal, appeal to Jewish voters are cons.

I believe that Jewish voters are slowly trending Republican, even though most are still Democrats.  I believe that this is a reaction to perceptions of Obama's policies, and of the move of American Muslims into the Democratic party, and I think that this very slow but definite movement of Jewish voters to the GOP will continue regardless of who is nominated.

Yup.  College liberals are overwhelmingly anti-Israel, so I think that pro-Israel Jews will likely move to the GOP in the future.

This is the catch. Pro-Israel Jews. Most American Jews, however, either don't care too much about Israel (normal Reform) or (and this is a large group) see themselves as pro-Israel, but don't see any real problems with the Democrats' policies toward Israel: many people think Netanyahu is just a warmonger and the U.S. promoting a two-state "solution" will somehow bring peace to the region. And even if they do see the problems with the current administrations' policy, foreign policy issues are often not on top of their priority list when voting.

Secularized Reform Jews (=most American Jews) have told themselves for decades that Christian conservatives are the real threat to religious freedom. Which is hogwash, I think, even though it's understandable, given the fact that rapprochement between Jews and Christians has only been a very recent phenomenon (and even then it's mainly an American phenomenon). So many Jews who are hardly religious themselves are not happy at all with Tea Partiers and social conservatives taking over the Republican party, because they think these people will at some point endanger their rights.

Orthodox Jews and some non-Orthodox Jews who care very much about Israel will undoubtedly vote for the Republicans for the first time in the next general election, and a high point of Republican support will be reached (by the way, among Modern Orthodox Jews and Haredim, a majority already support the GOP, I think). However, most Jews will never vote Republican, given the fact that they are often entirely part of a demographic (even apart from Jewishness) that will always skew toward Democratic support. By consequence of the fact that they're often "secular", they tend to hold very liberal values as well, which reinforces this.

So yes, American Jews are "trending" Republican, but most of them will still never vote Republican, so the "still" in "most are still Democrats" implies something that won't be reality. (Sad, but true.)

[DavidB.]

Pro: Rubio

Con: Kasich

On-topic: this. Okay, Kasich is a moderate and he's from Ohio, but apart from that, he's just super super boring and uninspirational. The VP candidate being a woman (Ayotte?) would also be something good, especially if Clinton is the Democratic nominee.

Still, this would be one of the very best possible Republican tickets.

[henster]

Pro: Rubio

Con: Kasich

On-topic: this. Okay, Kasich is a moderate and he's from Ohio, but apart from that, he's just super super boring and uninspirational. The VP candidate being a woman (Ayotte?) would also be something good, especially if Clinton is the Democratic nominee.

Still, this would be one of the very best possible Republican tickets.

I don't know why Ayotte's name keeps coming up, she will be running for re-election it will be very difficult for her to be a VP candidate and run for re-election in a state like NH especially when Ds will targeting her.

[bobloblaw]

Pros:

1.  Should carry OH and FL

2.  Ideologically compatible.

3.  New faces; not Bushes.

4.  Rubio's Hispanic background a big plus.


Cons:

1.  Less experienced guy would be leading the ticket.

2.  Neither guy is anyone's 1st choice.

3.  Ticket appears to be a calculated compromise based on the electoral map.

4.  Ticket lacks ability to generate excitement.


I think the pros outweigh the cons.  I think Kasich/Rubio is more credible than Rubio/Kasich, but Marco is certainly getting more traction than Kasich at this point.

I dont think Kaisch is less experienced. The less experienced guy leading the ticket won in 1976 and 1992, 2000 and 2008. So it happens quite a lot.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I would like Kasich/Rubio better

[Mister Mets]

It's a strong ticket.

Pros
- Good balance of experiences. Rubio is a new Senator. Kasich is a sitting Governor who chaired an important congressional committee, and spent some time in the private sector.
- Rubio is a strong politician, and Kasich is unlikely to embarrass/ hurt the ticket.
- Rubio may be the ideal opponent against Clinton. He's a young Senator whose election would represent a major milestone for the country. Hillary lost to that before.
- Boost in Ohio and Florida, two states Republicans need to win.

Cons
- Ohio and Florida were the most likely states to flip anyway. And that's still short of 270.
- Possible vulnerability to a sense that it's time to elect a woman.