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« on: August 17, 2015, 07:52:58 PM »
« edited: August 19, 2015, 03:36:09 PM by Classic Conservative »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
Secretary of Labor:Scott Walker
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
EPA Administrator: EPA Gone got rid of it
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2015, 12:40:27 PM »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
This sounds pretty good, actually. Tom Cotton would definitely make an awesome Secretary of Defense. And withdrawing from the UN on day one seems the only right thing to do.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2015, 01:08:16 PM »

Secretary of State: Walter B. Jones Jr.
Secretary of Defense: Dennis Kucinich
Attorney General: Andrew Napolitano
Secretary of the Treasury: Ron Paul
Secretary of Energy: Thomas Massie
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Ben Carson
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2015, 02:06:25 PM »

I think im gonna barf.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2015, 02:31:05 PM »

Vice President: Kamala Harris
State: Samantha Power
Treasury: Paul Krugman
Defense: David Petraeus
Attorney General: Barack Obama
Interior: Sally Jewell (we went to the same elementary school, so we're homies)
Agriculture: Deb Fischer
Commerce: Elizabeth Warren
Labor: Bernie Sanders
Health and Human Services: Melinda Gates
Housing and Urban Development: Bill de Blasio
Transportation: Elon Musk
Energy: Dan Arvizu
Education: Jim McDermott
Veterans Affairs: Tammy Duckworth
Homeland Security: John Brennan
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2015, 03:29:07 PM »

Vice President: Susana Martinez
Secretary of State: Robert Zoellick
Secretary of the Treasury: Glenn Hubbard
Secretary of Defense: Michael Hayden
Attorney General: Richard Wiley
Secretary of the Interior: Luis Fortuno
Secretary of Agriculture: Adam Putnam
Secretary of Commerce: Kay Bailey Hutchinson
Secretary of Labor: William Kilberg
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Tim Murphy
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Jason Turner
Secretary of Transportation: John Mica
Secretary of Energy: Jack Gerard
Secretary of Education: Michelle Rhee
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Josue Robles
Secretary of Homeland Security: Joe Lieberman

(Extras)
White House Chief of Staff: Mike Leavitt
Director of the OMB: Jim Nussle
Administrator of the EPA: James Connaughton
Ambassador to the UN: John Bolton
Chairperson of the Council of Economic Advisers: Greg Mankiw
Director of National Intelligence: Cofer Black
National Security Advisor: Richard Williamson
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2015, 04:46:55 PM »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
Please stop pretending you are libertarian.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2015, 06:01:10 PM »

Having wet dreams about who you would appoint to your presidential cabinet is so atlas.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2015, 06:46:06 PM »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
Please stop pretending you are libertarian.
How am I pretending to be a libertarian?
Those are politicans that I support and I think would do a good job. I admit that I'm much more conservative social and foreign policy wise but I'm a Ludwig Von Mises economic libertarian.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2015, 10:59:20 PM »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
Please stop pretending you are libertarian.
How am I pretending to be a libertarian?
Those are politicans that I support and I think would do a good job. I admit that I'm much more conservative social and foreign policy wise but I'm a Ludwig Von Mises economic libertarian.

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".

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Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2015, 05:43:38 AM »

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".
Example:
Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
You need to choose. Is libertarianism bad/immoral/capitalist, or is it good but misunderstood? It can't be both.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2015, 07:01:08 AM »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
Please stop pretending you are libertarian.
How am I pretending to be a libertarian?
Those are politicans that I support and I think would do a good job. I admit that I'm much more conservative social and foreign policy wise but I'm a Ludwig Von Mises economic libertarian.

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".

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Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
I didn't say he was a libertarian, let me phrase it better for your mental capacity, a Milton Friedman economic libertarian.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2015, 08:25:18 AM »

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".
Example:
Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
You need to choose. Is libertarianism bad/immoral/capitalist, or is it good but misunderstood? It can't be both.
He's selectively using the economic part of libertarianism, which he obviously loathes, and the social part of libertarianism, which I'd guess he's a pretty big fan of.

Classic Conservative isn't libertarian as much as I am socialist because I agree with them on a few (non-economic) things. As far as I can gather, Classic Conservative is...a classic...conservative. He gave himself an accurate name.



Now I feel obligated to post knee-jerk partial cabinet picks:

Vice-President: Gary Johnson
Secretary of State: Justin Amash
Secretary of the Treasury: Dr. Ron Paul
Attorney General: Bob Barr
Secretary of Defense: Clint Eastwood (I'm actually half serious)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Dr. Ben Carson
Secretary of Education: Jimmy Wales
Secretary of Energy: Dr. Mary Ruwart, PhD
Secretary of Transportation: Thomas Massie
Secretary of Commerce: Wayne Allyn Root
Secretary of Homeland Security: Dr. Rand Paul

Extra:
Director of National Intelligence: Edward Snowden

All of those but Snowden and Carson are libertarian or close to it. And that's also probably the record for the most doctorates in a cabinet, even though I left some out. I might keep around Castro and add Cruz so I could learn their weaknesses if they try to topple my libertarian utopia in the next election.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2015, 08:48:10 AM »

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".
Example:
Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
You need to choose. Is libertarianism bad/immoral/capitalist, or is it good but misunderstood? It can't be both.
He's selectively using the economic part of libertarianism, which he obviously loathes, and the social part of libertarianism, which I'd guess he's a pretty big fan of.
What? Murica is the only economic libertarian who has posted in this thread.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2015, 09:35:07 AM »

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".
Example:
Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
You need to choose. Is libertarianism bad/immoral/capitalist, or is it good but misunderstood? It can't be both.
He's selectively using the economic part of libertarianism, which he obviously loathes, and the social part of libertarianism, which I'd guess he's a pretty big fan of.
What? Murica is the only economic libertarian who has posted in this thread.
What the hell are you talking about Leinad is a LIBERTARIAN, is it so hard for you to understand.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2015, 10:19:14 AM »

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".
Example:
Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
You need to choose. Is libertarianism bad/immoral/capitalist, or is it good but misunderstood? It can't be both.
He's selectively using the economic part of libertarianism, which he obviously loathes, and the social part of libertarianism, which I'd guess he's a pretty big fan of.
What? Murica is the only economic libertarian who has posted in this thread.
What the hell are you talking about Leinad is a LIBERTARIAN, is it so hard for you to understand.
I support the freedom of the individual from oppression, so yes I am an economic libertarian.
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2015, 11:36:02 AM »

Libertarian is a term equivalent to social anarchist or anarcho-communist, at least in the classical sense. In America, people who call themselves libertarians usually don't fit that mold, though. The 'Americanized' version of the term was deliberately lifted by a very specific and very bizarre variant of the New Right in the early 1970s that didn't play well with others and embraced parts of the new social movements while fundamentally rejecting the social content of them. In reality, they're not 'libertarians' in the sense that they seek absolute freedom insofar as possible, but instead just support absolute liberty for really wealthy dickheads who shouldn't (in their view) be encumbered by 'Big Government' bureaucrats telling them not to spend their 'hard earned' (lol) money on hookers and blow.
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2015, 02:17:02 PM »

Vice President: Mike Huckabee (R-AR) or John Thune
(R-SD)


Cabinet
Secretary of State: John Bolton (R-MD)
Secretary of the Treasury: Herman Cain (R-GA)
Secretary of Defense: Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
Attorney General: Chris Christie (R-NJ)
Secretary of the Interior: Mike Enzi (R-WY) or Denny Rehberg (R-MT)
Secretary of Agriculture: Jack Dalrymple (R-ND), Sam Brownback (R-KS), or Terry Branstad (R-IA)
Secretary of Labor: Phil English (R-PA)
Secretary of Commerce: Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Secretary of Transportation: Mitch Daniels (R-IN)
Secretary of Health & Human Services: Bill Frist (R-TN)
Secretary of Housing & Urban Development: Robert Ehrlich (R-MD)
Secretary of Energy: Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Secretary of Education: Scott Walker (R-WI)
Secretary of Veterans' Affairs: John McCain (R-AZ)
Secretary of Homeland Security: George Pataki (R-NY)

Other Advisers
White House Chief of Staff: Margaret Hoover (R)
White House Press Secretary: David Frum (R)
National Security Advisor: Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)
EPA Administrator: Bob Inglis (R-SC)
UN Ambassador: Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
White House Budget Director: Carly Fiorina (R-CA)
Surgeon General: Ben Carson (R-MD)
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2015, 02:30:53 PM »

Vice President: Mike Huckabee (R-AR) or John Thune
(R-SD)


Cabinet
Secretary of State: John Bolton (R-MD)
Secretary of the Treasury: Herman Cain (R-GA)
Secretary of Defense: Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
Attorney General: Chris Christie (R-NJ)
Secretary of the Interior: Mike Enzi (R-WY) or Denny Rehberg (R-MT)
Secretary of Agriculture: Jack Dalrymple (R-ND), Sam Brownback (R-KS), or Terry Branstad (R-IA)
Secretary of Labor: Phil English (R-PA)
Secretary of Commerce: Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Secretary of Transportation: Mitch Daniels (R-IN)
Secretary of Health & Human Services: Bill Frist (R-TN)
Secretary of Housing & Urban Development: Robert Ehrlich (R-MD)
Secretary of Energy: Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Secretary of Education: Scott Walker (R-WI)
Secretary of Veterans' Affairs: John McCain (R-AZ)
Secretary of Homeland Security: George Pataki (R-NY)

Other Advisers
White House Chief of Staff: Margaret Hoover (R)
White House Press Secretary: David Frum (R)
National Security Advisor: Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)
EPA Administrator: Bob Inglis (R-SC)
UN Ambassador: Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
White House Budget Director: Carly Fiorina (R-CA)
Surgeon General: Ben Carson (R-MD)

Can we stop the myth that Lieberman is a Democrat?
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2015, 03:08:50 PM »

Vice President-John Kerry
State-Russ Feingold
Defense- Colin Powell
Treasury- Robert Reich
Labor- Elizabeth Warren
Attorney General- Bryan Stevenson
Interior- Robert Kennedy Jnr
Agriculture- Blance Lincoln
Commerce- Ha Joon Chang
Energy-Jerry Brown
HHS-Howard Dean
Transport-Ed Rendell
Education-Randi Weingarten
VA- Max Cleland
DHS-Gary Hart
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2015, 03:22:36 PM »

Vice-President: Rob Portman (R-OH)

Cabinet
Secretary of State: Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
Secretary of the Treasury: Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Secretary of Defense: Jim Talent (R-MO)
Attorney General: Andrew Napolitano (R-NJ)
Secretary of the Interior: Mark Begich (D-AK)
Secretary of Agriculture: Merge with Interior
Secretary of Labor: Paul LePage (R-ME)
Secretary of Transportation: Dan Malloy (D-CT)
Secretary of Health & Human Services: Bill Frist (R-TN)
Secretary of Veterans' Affairs: John McCain (R-AZ)

Other Advisers
White House Chief of Staff: Some Guy I Know Personally
White House Press Secretary: Andrea Tantaros
EPA Administrator: Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
UN Ambassador: Mark Zuckerberg (I-CA)
White House Budget Director: Carly Fiorina (R-CA)
Surgeon General: Ben Carson (R-MD)
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2015, 03:32:35 PM »

To be alternative I'll publish a UK one, because British politics is just as cool

Deputy Prime Minister- Andy Burnham
Chancellor of the Exchequer-Chukka Umunna
Foreign Secretary- Dan Jarvis
Home Secretary- Caroline Flint
Defense Secretary- Tom Watson
Justice Secretary- Tristam Hunt
Business Secretary -Hillary Benn
Education Secretary- Luciana Berger
Work and Pensions Secretary- David Lammy
Chief Secretary- Maria Eagle
Climate Change and Energy Secretary - Ed Miliband
Transport Secretary- Christian Wolmar
Local Government Secretary- Liz Kendall


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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2015, 10:13:02 PM »

If you were elected in the 2012 election who would you have in your cabinet

Secretary of State:John Bolton
Secretary of Defense:Undecided maybe Tom Cotton or Ollie North
Attorney General:Ken Cuccinelli
Secretary of Interior:Lisa Murkowski
Secretary of Education:David Barton
Secretary of Health:Dr. Benjamin Carson
Secretary of Agriculture:Chuck Grassley
Secretary of Energy:Joe Manchin meh bipartisanship
UN Ambassador:US Withdrew 1st Day
Israel Ambassador:Lee Zeldin
Undecided on everything else
Please stop pretending you are libertarian.
How am I pretending to be a libertarian?
Those are politicans that I support and I think would do a good job. I admit that I'm much more conservative social and foreign policy wise but I'm a Ludwig Von Mises economic libertarian.

"Ludwig Von Mises" and "Libertarian" cannot be included within the same sentence unless it includes the word "not".

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Ludwig Von Mises was not a Libertarian due to his opposition to human freedom.
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No, I simply believe that people who support the capitalist slave system to be opposed to freedom.
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2015, 10:58:20 PM »

Attorney General: Andrew Napolitano (R-NJ)

He would make a great Supreme Court Justice too.
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 03:02:31 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2015, 03:04:14 AM by Leinad, Southern Legislator »

Libertarian is a term equivalent to social anarchist or anarcho-communist, at least in the classical sense. In America, people who call themselves libertarians usually don't fit that mold, though. The 'Americanized' version of the term was deliberately lifted by a very specific and very bizarre variant of the New Right in the early 1970s that didn't play well with others and embraced parts of the new social movements while fundamentally rejecting the social content of them. In reality, they're not 'libertarians' in the sense that they seek absolute freedom insofar as possible, but instead just support absolute liberty for really wealthy dickheads who shouldn't (in their view) be encumbered by 'Big Government' bureaucrats telling them not to spend their 'hard earned' (lol) money on hookers and blow.

I get your point, but to me people can't have freedom if their wallets are regulated to death. It has nothing to do with my personal greed (I don't aspire to be wealthy), just a philosophy of limited government intervention in all areas, including the economy. Pure capitalism isn't perfect, but pure communism is worse.

The term "libertarian" generally means minimal government intervention in social sectors, economic sectors, and international sectors. Neither you nor I get to redefine what words mean.
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