1964: LBJ vs. Margaret Chase Smith

[President Johnson]

Afer the GOP nomination is deadlocked between Golderwater and Rocky, Margaret Chase Smith is nominated. It's pretty unlikely she wins in such a scenario against LBJ, but how is she doing against the incumbent?

[VPH]

Have to think some segregationist would have hopped in, but without that here's my thought.

[Thunderbird is the word]

Johnson/Humphrey 307
Smith/Romney 184
Unpleged electors 47

It would be interesting to see what effect it would have on the future political coalitions and the women's rights movement to have the GOP be the first to nominate a women.

[Sir Mohamed]

Lyndon B. Johnson (inc.)/Hubert Humphrey: 484 EV. (61%)
Margaret Chase Smith/Gerald Ford: 54 EV. (39%)

[Thunderbird is the word]

Lyndon B. Johnson (inc.)/Hubert Humphrey: 484 EV. (61%)
Margaret Chase Smith/Gerald Ford: 54 EV. (39%)

I doubt that Smith would do as well in the Deep South or as poorly everywhere else as Goldwater.

[Sir Mohamed]

Lyndon B. Johnson (inc.)/Hubert Humphrey: 484 EV. (61%)
Margaret Chase Smith/Gerald Ford: 54 EV. (39%)

I doubt that Smith would do as well in the Deep South or as poorly everywhere else as Goldwater.

Johnson was totally unacceptable for the Deep South due to his civil rights policies. Maybe a third party like in 1948 would have emerged. With the nation still mourning JFK and LBJ's solid performance as chief executive in 1963-64 he was unbeatable in this election. Out of the top Republican politicans in 1964, I think Rockefeller and/or Nixon would have done best against LBJ, though still losing by a 10-15% margin.

[NHI]

√ Johnson/Humphrey: 328 (50%)

Smith/Romney: 163 (40%)

Third Party: 47 (9%)

[TDAS04]

A George Wallace type candidate would have emerged.  There's no way the Deep South would have tolerated either LBJ or Smith.

Johnson: 447
Wallace: 47
Smith: 44

Smith only carries the most obvious Republican states.  A female president in 1964 would have been too much of a leap.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Lyndon B. Johnson (inc.)/Hubert Humphrey: 484 EV. (61%)
Margaret Chase Smith/Gerald Ford: 54 EV. (39%)

I doubt that Smith would do as well in the Deep South or as poorly everywhere else as Goldwater.

Johnson was totally unacceptable for the Deep South due to his civil rights policies. Maybe a third party like in 1948 would have emerged. With the nation still mourning JFK and LBJ's solid performance as chief executive in 1963-64 he was unbeatable in this election. Out of the top Republican politicans in 1964, I think Rockefeller and/or Nixon would have done best against LBJ, though still losing by a 10-15% margin.

What makes you think a bunch Southern Democrats would vote for a New England Republican who supports civil rights over a fellow Southern Democrat who (very recently) also supports civil rights?

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

√ President Lyndon Johnson/Vice President Hubert Humphrey - 447 EV
Senator Strom Thurmond/District Attorney Leander Perez - 47 EV
Senator Margaret Chase Smith/Governor Nelson Rockefeller - 44 EV

[TaylorFillmore]

I will post as soon as  I know how to post a map, can someone let me know how to. Thanks
For the mean time I'll tell you what I think. Having Margaret Chase Smith as the nominee would have had repurcussions further than the 64 election just as Goldwater's campaign gave inspiration to such figures as Ronald Reagan, a Smith candidacy might have emboldened  Mark Hatfield, then a 2nd term governor ,Edward Brooke then Attorney General of Massachusetts and other moderates rather than the Conservative take over that took place. I'm saying this as somebody who feels that this was the right path for the Republicans (no pun intended). As for the election, I think Smith does well in New England , and the traditional Republican states in the midwest. I also think that George Wallace, or a similar figure would emerge in the South. With the sympathy vote being what it was no Republican could have won in '64 not even a figure as popular as Dwight Eisenhower(who without the 34th Amendment might have been drafted.) What would be interesting is if JFK had lived and Smith was his opponent .