UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao

[DavidB.]

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Of course, it's the fault of those evil Dutchies of Unilever, so all the more reason for leaving the fascist EU.

Oh please. Everybody knows it's not Marmite that's the condiment of choice for evil fascist reactionary papist Continentals, but Bovril:

[ChrisDR68]

British people are outraged that their vote has consequences...

Of course, it's the fault of those evil Dutchies of Unilever, so all the more reason for leaving the fascist EU.

Not fascist.

Just wrong headed and inflexible.

[Blair]

Theresa May[be] has finally decided to go ahead with the Heathrow runway expansion; but is putting off a commons vote until 2017.

Zac Goldsmith has resigned to run a by-election on the 'issue' but it will most likely be about Brexit, Brexit and a bit more Brexit. The Liberals will be looking at this seat with high hopes (was held by them from 97-2010) and it's the typical lib dem seat (white, middle class professionals, progressive leaning etc)

Tories not running a candidate

[ag]

Theresa May[be] has finally decided to go ahead with the Heathrow runway expansion; but is putting off a commons vote until 2017.

Zac Goldsmith has resigned to run a by-election on the 'issue' but it will most likely be about Brexit, Brexit and a bit more Brexit. The Liberals will be looking at this seat with high hopes (was held by them from 97-2010) and it's the typical lib dem seat (white, middle class professionals, progressive leaning etc)

Tories not running a candidate

Really hope LibDems get this one.  Would be great on every count imaginable.

[vileplume]

and it's the typical lib dem seat (white, middle class professionals, progressive leaning etc)

Not really anymore. You are thinking of the Richmond of 20 or 30 years ago. Although it is not noticeable at first glance because Richmond has always been a 'nice' area but scratch beneath the surface and the demographics have shifted a lot here. The area is rapidly turning into a copy of Kensington as the progressive middle classes which form the backbone of natural Lib Dem support are priced out (Richmond was competitive even in the Tory landslides of the 80s) and replaced with a upper class patrician, hard nosed capitalist demographic (bankers, corporate lawyers and the like) who are not Lib Dem friendly at all. Note that the decline in liberal Richmond has been directly responsible for turning formerly 'blue rinse' Tory Kingston and Surbiton into a more liberal kind of areas.

While it is possible the Lib Dems could win here in a by election as people use the opportunity to send May a message about hard Brexit (though it will be harder as Goldsmith is running and not even as a Tory) but as far a general elections go the Lib Dem's time has been and gone here.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

hey look everyone who is back in the news

The only surprising thing here is that apparently she was a member again? I had missed that...

[IceAgeComing]

government has lost the Article 50 case; so at the moment any triggering of it has to be approved by parliament.  They've appealed the judgement to the Supreme Court who should rule in December; although if its anything like this case we should have an idea what direction they are heading in.

A good thing IMO: any precedent that would increase royal prerogative powers is IMO a bad thing.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

well this is embarrassing

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That said I'm not looking forward to the parliamentary vote, which is probably going to rip Labour up the most.

[joevsimp]

government has lost the Article 50 case;

A good thing IMO: any precedent that would increase royal prerogative powers is IMO a bad thing.

Absolutely,  what with Parliamentary Sovereignty being such a high scorer iin Brexit Bingo. Better to have our all above board and kosher this way around rather than have it thrown out later

I don't see what May is so scared of. Most pro EU MPs with constituencies that voted leave will either hold their noses or sit on their hands; Labour would be wise to whip the PLP to abstain  It should be simple enough to remind MPs of the advice the people have given and use the usual channels to ensure that the vote is carried. The only problem is the SNP voting against it en bloc  and grandstanding about it. Some of the Lords might kick up a fuss but the threat of further reform should be enough to keep most of them in line (not that abolishing the unelected house would be a bad thing either)

[parochial boy]

If Article 50 has go through the whole parliamentary process though - MPs and the lords could combine to at least delay for quite some time. Which would make Theresa May's stated intention to trigger it by the end of March 2017 a bit of a pipe dream. Meaning the UK is still a member at the next EU elections in 2019.

[Phony Moderate]

Meaning the UK is still a member at the next EU elections in 2019.

Which are always taken oh so very seriously.

[YL]

The Mail, Express and Sun today are an utter disgrace.

[Silent Hunter]

The Mail, Express and Sun today are an utter disgrace.

"Enemies of the people" is the kind of language used by dictatorships about people they don't like.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

The Mail, Express and Sun today are an utter disgrace.

aren't they always tho

[Slow Learner]

'um, can we please see what the Brexit plan is?'
'NO NO NO HOW DARE YOU STOP THE PEOPLES BREXIT YOU REMOANER WIT!!!'

[YL]

No great surprise who's been chosen as an effigy for this year's Lewes Bonfire:

[Antonio the Sixth]

Britain discovers judicial review! Definitely interesting.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

So would Corbyn actually ask MPs to vote against Article 50 if May doesn't agree to some of the negotiation demands he outlined?

[Phony Moderate]

So the BBC apparently thinks that the revelation that some Prince is dating some actress I've never heard of (and that he hates that the media is harassing her) is more important news than something else that's taking place today, as it's the current top story on its website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37908096

Notice the irony anyone?

Surely the broadcasting rules that apply to our general election days don't also apply to U.S. presidential election days do they?

[Cubby]

Until 2015, why did rural, remote areas of Scotland & Wales (and Cornwall as a whole), usually vote for the Liberals, then Liberal Democrats? Was Labour too urban or union-dominated?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

So the BBC apparently thinks that the revelation that some Prince is dating some actress I've never heard of (and that he hates that the media is harassing her) is more important news than something else that's taking place today, as it's the current top story on its website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37908096

Notice the irony anyone?

Surely the broadcasting rules that apply to our general election days don't also apply to U.S. presidential election days do they?

Considering he has a nephew and a niece and won't be on the throne, the only remotely interesting aspect to the story is that she's apparently been divorced. A rehash of the Edward VIII thing isn't likely at all.

[Simfan34]

An actress! Someone should put a stop to this before it goes too far. The BBC has already published a near-hagiographic biography of her, touting her as a humanitarian and all-around modern woman. That's all fine and dandy for the actual royal family, and should generally be the norm for coverage (although I'm not saying the UK should go full Thailand, a lot of unpleasantry could have been avoided if the Sex Pistols had been jailed for a few months), but this is a symptom of our modern celebrity and sentimentality-obsessed culture. When has marriage to a divorced actress ever gone well?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

When has marriage to a divorced actress ever gone well?

I've thought about this for a solid three minutes and cannot come up with an example off the top of my head.