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« on: April 19, 2015, 10:36:34 AM »

No link yet bc I'm on mobile, but news is everywhere.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 10:41:21 AM »

Hooray!
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 11:18:21 AM »

Thank god.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 11:52:39 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2015, 11:56:24 AM »

I'm assuming he'll run for re-election then? It'll be one less seat for Democrats to worry about. The governorship is gone though.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 12:08:42 PM »

Good! Senate seat is more valuable now.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 12:13:42 PM »

Aaaaand, the Democrats have one less seat to worry about.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 12:25:27 PM »

Aaaaand, the Democrats have one less seat to worry about.

Assuming Manchin doesn't switch parties...

That won't happen, even in Republicans wildest dreams.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 12:27:06 PM »

Aaaaand, the Democrats have one less seat to worry about.

Assuming Manchin doesn't switch parties and runs for re-election in 2018, none of which is clear yet.

Manchin votes/has a more similar ideology to Bernie Sanders than he does to Susan Collins
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2015, 12:42:48 PM »

Manchin will probably win re-election in 2018 if he runs away from Washington.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2015, 12:43:44 PM »

Right decision. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2015, 12:48:23 PM »

I don't know what we would do without Joe Manchin in the Senate urging the party to the right.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2015, 12:48:55 PM »


Text version: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/west-virginias-joe-manchin-hell-run-senate-30428294

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2015, 12:54:24 PM »

This is the right call - but ultimately since a Manchin run was always somewhat unlikely and now he's ruled it out, WV Dems must now to pick a top-notch candidate.  They must hold the governorship at all costs - imagine the shenanigans the state GOP will get involved in if they have everything.  Manchin must help to the utmost amount necessary to make this feasible.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2015, 12:56:15 PM »

This is the right call - but ultimately since a Manchin run was always somewhat unlikely and now he's ruled it out, WV Dems must now to pick a top-notch candidate.  They must hold the governorship at all costs - imagine the shenanigans the state GOP will get involved in if they have everything.  Manchin must help to the utmost amount necessary to make this feasible.
There is no top-notch candidate to hold the seat from what I have heard. Though to be fair, Democrats haven't really don't a great job running the state, considering that its quality of life is Alabama and Mississippi levels of bad.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2015, 01:16:26 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2015, 02:17:12 PM »

This is the right call - but ultimately since a Manchin run was always somewhat unlikely and now he's ruled it out, WV Dems must now to pick a top-notch candidate.  They must hold the governorship at all costs - imagine the shenanigans the state GOP will get involved in if they have everything.  Manchin must help to the utmost amount necessary to make this feasible.

Even with a Democratic governor the Republicans in the legislature can do everything they want. They need only a simple majority to override vetoes.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2015, 03:53:48 PM »

Aaaaand, the Democrats have one less seat to worry about.

I'm not convinced he's 100% safe in 2018. He was supposed to win in an enormous landslide in 2010, yet it ended up being a real race against a perennial joke candidate like Raese. History could repeat itself.

That said, it definitely starts as likely D.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2015, 04:03:58 PM »

This is the right call - but ultimately since a Manchin run was always somewhat unlikely and now he's ruled it out, WV Dems must now to pick a top-notch candidate.  They must hold the governorship at all costs - imagine the shenanigans the state GOP will get involved in if they have everything.  Manchin must help to the utmost amount necessary to make this feasible.

Even with a Democratic governor the Republicans in the legislature can do everything they want. They need only a simple majority to override vetoes.

Then why haven't they passed right to work yet?  They must have at least one pro-union R in the 18R/16D state senate?
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2015, 04:12:51 PM »

This is the right call - but ultimately since a Manchin run was always somewhat unlikely and now he's ruled it out, WV Dems must now to pick a top-notch candidate.  They must hold the governorship at all costs - imagine the shenanigans the state GOP will get involved in if they have everything.  Manchin must help to the utmost amount necessary to make this feasible.

Even with a Democratic governor the Republicans in the legislature can do everything they want. They need only a simple majority to override vetoes.

Then why haven't they passed right to work yet?  They must have at least one pro-union R in the 18R/16D state senate?

Perhaps they want to but know they can't because they will be held accountable at the ballot box in a one-issue election much like the CO gun control vote (even if it's not a recall setting).
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2015, 06:45:24 PM »

This is the right call - but ultimately since a Manchin run was always somewhat unlikely and now he's ruled it out, WV Dems must now to pick a top-notch candidate.  They must hold the governorship at all costs - imagine the shenanigans the state GOP will get involved in if they have everything.  Manchin must help to the utmost amount necessary to make this feasible.
There is no top-notch candidate to hold the seat from what I have heard. Though to be fair, Democrats haven't really don't a great job running the state, considering that its quality of life is Alabama and Mississippi levels of bad.

That's because West Virginia Democrats have continued to win by lying to their constituents about coal. WV Dems are no better than all Republicans when it comes to the intellectual integrity of their political rhetoric and policies.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2015, 09:16:04 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2015, 09:17:39 PM by Pacific Speaker Türkisblau »

I don't know what we would do without Joe Manchin in the Senate urging the party to the right.

This is such an idiotic statement and is entirely representative of how how some democrats think their senate majority is going to appear through ignoring huge swaths of the country. Anyway, this statement isn't even right because it depends on the issue whether or not Manchin is "urging the party to the right":

He supports expanding Social Security, allying with Elizabeth Warren in the process.

He opposes "free trade" agreements.

You'll be surprised by many of these issue groups ratings, including 100% by NARAL in 2011, and 58% by the League of Conservation Voters. He has also been ranked consistently high among labor unions.

There's also, you know, the whole Manchin-Toomey thing in which he did more to promote sensible gun control than any of the democratic politicians that you probably like.

Anyway, it just makes me mad how underrated Manchin is by many on the left. Democrats should all be incredibly appreciative that he is helping us achieve the majority again.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2015, 02:53:21 AM »

Personally don't like the guy, but better him than a conservative Republican. Likely Democratic hold, though if 2018 is a disaster for Democrats, it won't be enough to save the senate.
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2015, 03:35:44 AM »

Good, he would have looked silly running for Governor again.
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2015, 09:30:43 AM »

I don't know what we would do without Joe Manchin in the Senate urging the party to the right.

This is such an idiotic statement and is entirely representative of how how some democrats think their senate majority is going to appear through ignoring huge swaths of the country. Anyway, this statement isn't even right because it depends on the issue whether or not Manchin is "urging the party to the right":

He supports expanding Social Security, allying with Elizabeth Warren in the process.

He opposes "free trade" agreements.

You'll be surprised by many of these issue groups ratings, including 100% by NARAL in 2011, and 58% by the League of Conservation Voters. He has also been ranked consistently high among labor unions.

There's also, you know, the whole Manchin-Toomey thing in which he did more to promote sensible gun control than any of the democratic politicians that you probably like.

Anyway, it just makes me mad how underrated Manchin is by many on the left. Democrats should all be incredibly appreciative that he is helping us achieve the majority again.
I'm very appreciative of his Senate seat factoring into an emerging Senate majority in 2016. However, for all that stuff you posted(none of which actually passed, though in today's climate, that is forgivable), he is the media's go to Democratic critic of the whatever crazy thing the black guy in the White House is doing, and the D after his name gives him an awful lot of credibility.
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