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« on: April 09, 2015, 02:11:41 PM »

That's my prediction. Not just because of "muh demographics", but because her "weakness" there is severely overrated, just like her "strength" in states like AR, WV, KY, and MO. I think Colorado remains 1-2 points more Democratic than the nation as a whole in 2016. Feel free to disagree, as I'm sure 90% of you will.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2015, 02:17:32 PM »

I support the meme, but I do believe that she will more likely than not win Colorado.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 04:27:58 PM »

That's my prediction. Not just because of "muh demographics", but because her "weakness" there is severely overrated, just like her "strength" in states like AR, WV, KY, and MO. I think Colorado remains 1-2 points more Democratic than the nation as a whole in 2016. Feel free to disagree, as I'm sure 90% of you will.

She has polled there very poorly for quite a long time. Not just recently. There is something about her the voters there dont like
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 04:29:17 PM »

A Democrat winning Colorado? Bold.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 04:38:39 PM »

I think presidential turnout patterns should help her win it, even if narrowly. Gardner ran a very strong campaign, Udall ran an awful one and yet Gardner won with only 48% in a very GOP friendly year. Dems were one state senate seat away from keeping everything in the legislature as well.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2015, 04:41:54 PM »

Obama is a way better fit for the pot smoking snowboarder and latte liberal crowd than Hillary was. Hillary has a bigger appeal to working class whites.

Colorado has far more of the former than the latter. I hope i am wrong, but Obama was a simply a great fit for Colorado that will be tough to match.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 05:29:38 PM »

I agree.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2015, 05:31:00 PM »

It'll definitely be closer than 2012, either way.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2015, 09:53:16 PM »

The latte crowd isn't exactly a prime block to vote GOP though. I could see Colorado looking like a tossup again on election day and Hillary winning it by 5 points like last time.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2015, 10:58:50 PM »

Obama is a way better fit for the pot smoking snowboarder and latte liberal crowd than Hillary was. Hillary has a bigger appeal to working class whites.

Colorado has far more of the former than the latter. I hope i am wrong, but Obama was a simply a great fit for Colorado that will be tough to match.

Colorado has more pot smoking snowboarders and latte liberals than working class whites, you say?
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2015, 12:20:39 AM »

Of course she will.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2016, 10:56:13 AM »

Is it too soon to accept my accolades? Wink
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2016, 11:03:47 AM »

who did the Hillary will win NC thread?
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2016, 11:17:22 AM »

Anyone who thought that Hillary Clinton would actually lose Colorado is stupid, sorry. Especially in presidential years, it's a blue state now.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2016, 11:40:52 AM »

It'll definitely be closer than 2012, either way.

Lol! Not laughing at you Ebsy, but rather what our preconceived notions were a year and a half ago.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2016, 11:47:50 AM »

That's my prediction. Not just because of "muh demographics", but because her "weakness" there is severely overrated, just like her "strength" in states like AR, WV, KY, and MO. I think Colorado remains 1-2 points more Democratic than the nation as a whole in 2016. Feel free to disagree, as I'm sure 90% of you will.

While the main prediction has obviously proven to be true, I'm less certain about the details. The last NBC poll has Clinton at 44% nationally, but at 41% in Colorado; similar numbers are seen in the averages (44% nationally, will be 42% in CO once RCP adds in the polling from today). If you insist on using the two-way averages, the same pattern shows up; Hillary is at 48% nationally but 45% in Colorado. Clinton is winning Colorado overwhelmingly because Trump is such a uniquely awful fit for specifically Colorado's Republicans that her weakness doesn't matter; but it hasn't gone away, is still present in polling, and could be relevant in the future depending on who the Republican nominee in 2020 is.

Of course, any Clinton strength in AR, KY, MO, and WV in the 2016 cycle was always BS. Might've still been in the case in 2008, though.
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