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Tender Branson
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« on: March 24, 2015, 11:04:04 AM »

49-35 Bush/Clinton
48-38 Paul/Clinton
49-37 Walker/Clinton
50-33 Christie/Clinton
50-33 Huckabee/Clinton

http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-montana-polling-2/
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2015, 11:43:37 AM »

Glorious news! Smiley At least MT will be safe GOP. Wasn't Hillary supposed to be competitive there against "the GOP clown car"? And this poll was conducted even before E-Mailgate, though I doubt that her numbers have changed much since then.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 01:06:16 PM »

Oh no Sad 3 whole electoral votes!
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2015, 02:51:12 PM »

Not like it matters since MT isn't a competitive state, but this poll is still junk.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2015, 02:53:08 PM »

The Mountain West is not and never was kind to Hillary.  Ho hum. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2015, 04:27:43 PM »

The Perot factor must have been HUGE in the mountain west in 1992. Clinton won Montana and lost Wyoming of all places by 5 points,  despite the Mountain West's anti Clinton voting patterns afterwards.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2015, 04:37:59 PM »

Montana is bet-the-house-sure NOT in play, not anymore than Connecticut and Vermont are, anyway. This all looks a lot like 2012 to me. I bet Arizona wouldn't really be in play for her either, at least not as long as the most populated part of the state is content with that psychotic sheriff.

"Hillary's losing Montana!!!!!" and "Hillary's under 60!!!!!!" is just cheerleading.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2015, 05:57:55 PM »

The Perot factor must have been HUGE in the mountain west in 1992. Clinton won Montana and lost Wyoming of all places by 5 points,  despite the Mountain West's anti Clinton voting patterns afterwards.

That's right, even though the Dems still believe that the Perot vote split 50-50 which is wrong. It helped elect Clinton by a larger margin.

Montana is bet-the-house-sure NOT in play, not anymore than Connecticut and Vermont are, anyway. This all looks a lot like 2012 to me. I bet Arizona wouldn't really be in play for her either, at least not as long as the most populated part of the state is content with that psychotic sheriff.

"Hillary's losing Montana!!!!!" and "Hillary's under 60!!!!!!" is just cheerleading.

Some Hillary supporters are still fantasizing about her winning this state against the "GOP clown car".
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2015, 06:00:39 PM »

So Christie and Huck are the strongest here (if one were to take this poll seriously)?  Someone should make a map of which GOP candidate is the strongest in every state.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 06:02:57 PM »

I think most Democrats fully realize Montana is either out of reach for Hillary Clinton or not worth the effort when resources can be allocated to states with far more electoral votes with a far more likely chance of victory.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2015, 07:58:33 AM »

The Perot factor must have been HUGE in the mountain west in 1992. Clinton won Montana and lost Wyoming of all places by 5 points,  despite the Mountain West's anti Clinton voting patterns afterwards.

That's right, even though the Dems still believe that the Perot vote split 50-50 which is wrong. It helped elect Clinton by a larger margin.

Nationally, it was likely closer to 50/50, though pikely more anti-Bush in the Mountain West.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2015, 09:24:04 AM »
« Edited: March 29, 2015, 12:16:58 PM by pbrower2a »

Montana became R when the ranch interests became more powerful than the mining interests. To be sure, the mine owners can be reactionary in the extreme, but miners have often been the most militant union members of all. Ranch owners must create a tolerable existence for ranch hands, supplying even housing; ranch hands are much more isolated from each other than are miners who might live in mass settlements (towns) and thus unreachable by union organizers. The rancher-hand relationship is more paternal than adversarial in labor-management issues.  
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2015, 10:29:47 AM »

Some Hillary supporters are still fantasizing about her winning this state against the "GOP clown car".

I don't think anyone realistically expects her to win MT, unless the Republican nominee is Carson. Montana's about as much a swing state as Oregon.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2015, 03:39:00 AM »

The Perot factor must have been HUGE in the mountain west in 1992. Clinton won Montana and lost Wyoming of all places by 5 points,  despite the Mountain West's anti Clinton voting patterns afterwards.

That's right, even though the Dems still believe that the Perot vote split 50-50 which is wrong. It helped elect Clinton by a larger margin.

Montana is bet-the-house-sure NOT in play, not anymore than Connecticut and Vermont are, anyway. This all looks a lot like 2012 to me. I bet Arizona wouldn't really be in play for her either, at least not as long as the most populated part of the state is content with that psychotic sheriff.

"Hillary's losing Montana!!!!!" and "Hillary's under 60!!!!!!" is just cheerleading.

Some Hillary supporters are still fantasizing about her winning this state against the "GOP clown car".

I don't think any true Hillary supporter thinks she would win Montana, even against one of the loons, but they'd have to extremely looney like in the Carson/Palin tent.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2015, 10:59:47 AM »

If you go to 270towin it is the only state that Walker leads in at the moment.
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