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« on: February 10, 2015, 11:15:10 AM »

Very early, but PPP polled it:

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2015, 02:48:09 PM »

Wow, that's early! I'm sad to see that John Chiang is only at 10%. I'm surprised that they only included one Republican.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2015, 04:28:49 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2015, 04:41:25 PM by Joshua »

Wow. When Republicans dropped below 30% in statewide party registration, it wasn't a joke.

Good to see Harris and Newsom slapping around Villaraigosa like they should be.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2015, 12:06:20 AM »

It looks like Newsom has the bay area support pretty much wrapped up.

It should be noted, however that Southern California Democrats are getting 44% of the vote. I think that after getting beaten up in the Senate race, Villaraigosa will sit out for Guv.

Chiang is really the most qualified for govern and would do the best job. He is extremely knowledgeable and policy wonkish and can argue that he would carry on the steady hand leadership of Gov. Brown, except with a more progressive flavor. I really hope he runs and manages to make it into the top two--a top two in which he kicks Newsom's butt would be a great sight to see.

I think Chiang could actual get a fair bit of independent and moderate GOP support who see him as a better alternative to the other Dems. He would also be able to cut into the support for Newsom in SF because of his strength in the growing Asian-American community there.


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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2015, 02:11:44 AM »

For mayor and for senate, and the governor office will be his third run at public office, Newsom has already tried to run for.

Outside of the Bay area, he hasn't expanded beyond his base of supporters there, I think Dems will turn the page, and elect the San Diego guy.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2015, 02:27:37 AM »

It looks like Newsom has the bay area support pretty much wrapped up.

It should be noted, however that Southern California Democrats are getting 44% of the vote. I think that after getting beaten up in the Senate race, Villaraigosa will sit out for Guv.

Chiang is really the most qualified for govern and would do the best job. He is extremely knowledgeable and policy wonkish and can argue that he would carry on the steady hand leadership of Gov. Brown, except with a more progressive flavor. I really hope he runs and manages to make it into the top two--a top two in which he kicks Newsom's butt would be a great sight to see.

I think Chiang could actual get a fair bit of independent and moderate GOP support who see him as a better alternative to the other Dems. He would also be able to cut into the support for Newsom in SF because of his strength in the growing Asian-American community there.


Another John Chiang supporter? Yay!

I'd love to see him get one of the spots, with Dave Jones (the State Insurance Commissioner) getting one of the spots for Lt. Gov.

Fun fact: Dave Jones was elected student body president of his high school (all the way back in Chicago), with John Chiang as his VP.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 02:38:46 AM »

Wow, that's early! I'm sad to see that John Chiang is only at 10%. I'm surprised that they only included one Republican.

Agreed, the top 3 are all ugh.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 04:24:33 AM »

Wow, that's early! I'm sad to see that John Chiang is only at 10%. I'm surprised that they only included one Republican.

Agreed, the top 3 are all ugh.

I don't mind Garcetti. I think he'd be a decent successor to Feinstein, actually.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 04:30:15 AM »

It looks like Newsom has the bay area support pretty much wrapped up.

It should be noted, however that Southern California Democrats are getting 44% of the vote. I think that after getting beaten up in the Senate race, Villaraigosa will sit out for Guv.

Chiang is really the most qualified for govern and would do the best job. He is extremely knowledgeable and policy wonkish and can argue that he would carry on the steady hand leadership of Gov. Brown, except with a more progressive flavor. I really hope he runs and manages to make it into the top two--a top two in which he kicks Newsom's butt would be a great sight to see.

I think Chiang could actual get a fair bit of independent and moderate GOP support who see him as a better alternative to the other Dems. He would also be able to cut into the support for Newsom in SF because of his strength in the growing Asian-American community there.


Another John Chiang supporter? Yay!

I'd love to see him get one of the spots, with Dave Jones (the State Insurance Commissioner) getting one of the spots for Lt. Gov.

Fun fact: Dave Jones was elected student body president of his high school (all the way back in Chicago), with John Chiang as his VP.

Yeah, I read that about Chiang and Jones. Really interesting factoid.

Kind of reminds me of how Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer knew each other from Maryland and were both on staff together for MD senator Daniel Brewster. Except rather than being at odds with each other, Chiang and Jones seem to work very well together and are supportive of each other.

Newsom has a quality about him that can rub people the wrong way and given that he's started campaigning so early, he has lots of time to mess up... and the anti-Newsom forces might try to coalesce behind one candidate--hopefully our man.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2015, 03:24:59 PM »

I also like Chiang, and I see him being the best person to continue what Brown is doing in California. Very few California Dems enthuse me, but Chiang is someone who deserves to be in the race and I could get behind.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2015, 11:15:04 PM »

I know very little about Chiang, can someone tell me more about him?
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2015, 12:57:19 AM »
« Edited: February 15, 2015, 01:02:05 AM by Fubart Solman »

I know very little about Chiang, can someone tell me more about him?

I see him as standing up for the middle class, as shown by his actions after Arnold's antics over the state budget back in the Schwarzenneger administration.

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This article gives a bit of later context about Chiang's first term as controller from 2007-2011. (He was re-elected in 2010 to serve from 2011-2015 and won election as treasurer for 2015 to 2019.)  http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/16/local/la-me-chiang-profile-20100716

There may be edits with more info. My phone doesn't like to save things when I switch tabs in my browser.

Edit 1: Here's another article written at the time of the "showdown": http://sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Governor-sues-controller-to-force-pay-cuts-3199879.php
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2015, 10:21:33 PM »

Chiang is someone the left, particularly the student left, can really get behind. If he can shore up enough of that support, he'll have a cadre of volunteers and activists that could realistically put him toe-to-toe against Newsom by shoring up the rest of the liberal Democrats.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2015, 12:31:23 AM »

So Chiang is a progressive technocrat type, then. How is he on the issues (on any issues), beyond the ones you've already talked about?
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2015, 09:50:29 PM »

It looks like Newsom has the bay area support pretty much wrapped up.

It should be noted, however that Southern California Democrats are getting 44% of the vote. I think that after getting beaten up in the Senate race, Villaraigosa will sit out for Guv.

Chiang is really the most qualified for govern and would do the best job. He is extremely knowledgeable and policy wonkish and can argue that he would carry on the steady hand leadership of Gov. Brown, except with a more progressive flavor. I really hope he runs and manages to make it into the top two--a top two in which he kicks Newsom's butt would be a great sight to see.

I think Chiang could actual get a fair bit of independent and moderate GOP support who see him as a better alternative to the other Dems. He would also be able to cut into the support for Newsom in SF because of his strength in the growing Asian-American community there.




Just out of curiosity, how united is the Asian community in CA Democratic primaries considering the diversity of the community? It sounded like there was some split in the Khanna-Honda race between Indians and other Asians, so does this also play out in other races?
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2015, 12:44:51 PM »

Chiang is someone the left, particularly the student left, can really get behind. If he can shore up enough of that support, he'll have a cadre of volunteers and activists that could realistically put him toe-to-toe against Newsom by shoring up the rest of the liberal Democrats.

California college students don't vote.

Chiang would be the best candidate for Senate in 2018.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2015, 02:09:42 PM »

Chiang is someone the left, particularly the student left, can really get behind. If he can shore up enough of that support, he'll have a cadre of volunteers and activists that could realistically put him toe-to-toe against Newsom by shoring up the rest of the liberal Democrats.

California college students don't vote.

Chiang would be the best candidate for Senate in 2018.

The Senate would be a good choice if he doesn't think he can beat Gavin in the gubernatorial primary. Feinstein will be 85; I doubt that she'll run. If she does, I think someone significant will challenge her.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2015, 09:33:44 AM »

Chiang is someone the left, particularly the student left, can really get behind. If he can shore up enough of that support, he'll have a cadre of volunteers and activists that could realistically put him toe-to-toe against Newsom by shoring up the rest of the liberal Democrats.

California college students don't vote.

Chiang would be the best candidate for Senate in 2018.

The Senate would be a good choice if he doesn't think he can beat Gavin in the gubernatorial primary. Feinstein will be 85; I doubt that she'll run. If she does, I think someone significant will challenge her.

I thought the consensus on Feinstein was that she's a senator for life type?
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