President Elect - 1988 Edition now available online

[Metalhead123]

I cant post photos yet but I did an election with Robert Bryd, Nelson Rockefeller, and Howard Baker as the third party for some reason. I managed to not have an electoral majority. The house then chose Byrd.

[Devout Centrist]

An avowed socialist and Soviet sympathizer destroys an ultra right wing general in the 1988 election.

America elects a cuck over a Nazi.

[heatcharger]

How do you get this thing to work? I typed "START" after the box saying something about a manual, but it just loops back to the beginning every time.

[Metalhead123]

1980 election of Biden vs Reagan vs Anderson with unemployment and inflation set to 25% and the US in a state of war.

[RC]

Interesting!


Sure would love to play a version with updated graphics though...

There is a similar game called the political machine, and they have versions for 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016. Also try President Forever 2008 + Primaries, President Forever 2012, and President Infinity (2016)

[BL53931]

I can't get this thing to run. Using a laptop with windows 10. Just freezes up.
Thanks anyway.

[RC]

Didn't actually use this game for my simulation, instead I used Political Machine 2016. I'm just going to post this here because I don't know where else I could put it.

Fmr. Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Gov. John Kasich (R-OH): 457 Ev's, 84,564,000 Pv's (56.4%)

Mr. Donald Trump (D/Reform-NY)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA): 84 Ev's, 66,758,000 Pv's (43.6%)

[You don't see any blue avatars now]

Maybe random maps or the PF thread. If those don't fit the bill, maybe you should make your own thread.

[AGA]

I played as Reagan in 1980 with historical circumstances and focused on winning DC. These were the results. DC was won 49-36-14.

Anderson: 0 EVs, 10% PV
Carter: 107 EVs, 42% PV
Reagan: 431 EVs, 47% PV

[JVLaB]

so here's the "SECRET" candidates I've found that game recognized but are NOT on sheet below.

Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1988 Dem conv keynote bomber
Pat Schroeder (D-CO)
Oliver North (R-VA)

ANY other SECRET candidates anybody find?

[BSH]

To The Stars... But Not the White House (1976)

Gerald Ford/Bob Dole - 53%, 424
John Glenn/Joe Biden - 47%, 114

Reagan Revolution (1980)

Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush - 49%, 364
Ted Kennedy/Gary Hart - 46%, 174
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey - 5%, 0

[BSH]

CHISHOLM WINS?

Shirley Chisholm (NY)/Jesse Jackson (SC) - 42%, 473EV
George Wallace (AL)/Curtis LeMay (OH) - 29%, 65EV
Barry Goldwater (AZ)/Jesse Helms (NC) - 28%, 0EV

Lets just assume ol' George wasn't shot.
Settings:
Goldwater is Incumbent
Inflation: 25%
Unemployment: 25%
War (enthusiasm: 1)

[MAINEiac4434]

So I tried to play as Mario Cuomo in 1988...it was pretty ugly.

[Dancing with Myself]

Guys here's some tips for those who have a hard time starting the game:


1. Get DOSBox as it's a simulator for DOS games it cannot run on modern windows.

2. I put the folder of PE 1988 into Dosbox's root folder and I just move it over to the DosBox logo and it starts up.

3. When it starts type start in; the game starts up.

4. Type 1 if you want to do a game of you're running or watch a sim but have control over time length between turns.  Type 4 if you want to see a Demo.

5.Type 0 for the colors like on Atlas.

6. Press Enter. This is important as it allows you to bypass the code screen. If you type in any code you're screwed pretty much. The game (at least when I play,) bypasses it by pressing enter and you're on the election choosing screen.


Enjoy!

[diptheriadan]

Pres. Gerald R. Ford/Vice Pres. Nelson Rockefeller-51%; 352
Gov. Jimmy Carter/Sen. Walter Mondale-49%; 186

It was close until about halfway through. Around turn 6 or so, Ford made a massive move on the South.

[diptheriadan]

First Nixon win out of 30 tries.

Nixon narrowly lead in the end.

[LLR]

1960:

Hubert Humphrey/Lyndon Johnson 134 EVs, 47%
Richard Nixon/Gordon Allott 403 EVs, 52%

Nixon won with the calling of New York at 10:48 PM, but it was obvious long before that.

1964:

John Kennedy/Stu Symington 135 EVs, 46%
Richard Nixon/Gordon Allott 393 EVs, 51%
George Wallace/Somebody Somebody 10 EVs, 3%

It took until 11:23 PM this time, and Pennsylvania was what pushed Nixon over.


1968:

Ed Muskie/George Smathers 481 EVs, 48%
Nelson Rockefeller/George Romney 47 EVs, 40%
George Wallace/Somebody Somebody 10 EVs, 11%

[MAINEiac4434]

1960:

Hubert Humphrey/Lyndon Johnson 134 EVs, 47%
Richard Nixon/Gordon Allott 403 EVs, 52%

Nixon won with the calling of New York at 10:48 PM, but it was obvious long before that.

1964:

John Kennedy/Stu Symington 135 EVs, 46%
Richard Nixon/Gordon Allott 393 EVs, 51%
George Wallace/Somebody Somebody 10 EVs, 3%

It took until 11:23 PM this time, and Pennsylvania was what pushed Nixon over.


1968:

Ed Muskie/George Smathers 481 EVs, 48%
Nelson Rockefeller/George Romney 47 EVs, 40%
George Wallace/Somebody Somebody 10 EVs, 11%

So in this world, the Nixon presidency developed worse than Kennedy and Johnson in re: Vietnam? I can only imagine such a Muskie landslide in 1968 would be a sh**tshow in Vietnam.

[MAINEiac4434]

1968

Senator Robert Francis Kennedy of New York/Ralph Webster Yarborough of Texas: 480 EV, 35,891,396 PV, 53%
Vice President Richard Milhous Nixon of California/Governor Spiro Agnew of Maryland: 48 EV, 28,584,880 PV, 42%
Governor George Wallace of Alabama/Governor Lester Maddox of Mississippi: 10 EV, 2,708,775 PV, 4%

Called at 9:57 PM with Florida, just minutes after Nixon won his first state (Nebraska). It was really close until about week five, and then Kennedy just pulled away. It wasn't even close by the end of the campaign, as we can see here.

1972

President Robert Francis Kennedy of New York/Vice President Ralph Webster Yarborough of Texas: 538 EV, 44,393,528 PV, 58%
Governor Nelson Rockefeller of New York/Senator Margaret Chase Smith of Maine: 0 EV 32,555,400 42%

Called at 9:38, and the real question entering the night was whether Rockefeller would win a state. You can see the result.

1976

Governor Ronald Reagan of California/Representative John Ashbrook of Ohio: 335 EV, 42,082,436 PV, 51%
Vice President Ralph Webster Yarborough of Texas/Senator Walter Mondale of Minnesota: 203 EV, 40,123,196 PV, 49%

Yarborough collapsed down the stretch. He had a large-ish lead that evaporated every week. It was still really close. The race was called at 11:39 with Reagan the "apparent winner" of Connecticut, despite having less than a 1,000 vote lead there. It was confirmed just before midnight.

1980

Senator Edmund S. Muskie of Maine/Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia: 319 EV, 44,403,864 PV, 52%
President Ronald Reagan of California/Vice President John Ashbrook of Ohio: 219 EV, 41,206,436 PV, 48%

At 10:09 PM, the networks called New Jersey for Senator Muskie, handing him the presidency. Muskie started with a huge lead that got closer as time went on. Fortunately for him, and unfortunately for Reagan, he had enough legs to finish the job, unlike Ralph Yarborough. In retrospect, it was closer than it should've been.

1984

President Edmund S. Muskie of Maine/Vice President Jimmy Carter of Georgia: 482 EV, 51,609,676 PV, 56%
Senator Mark O. Hatfield of Oregon/Senator John Chafee of Rhode Island 56 EV, 39,717,168 PV, 43%

Iowa was called at 9:27, and with it the election, before Senator Hatfield even won a state. It was an all-out domination. Clearly, the moderate strategy by the Republican Party didn't work.

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After narrowly defeating Jimmy Carter in 1976, President Gerald Ford opts to run for a second full term in the White House, giving him the potential to become the second-longest serving president behind only FDR. However, amidst sinking domestic and foreign conditions by 1980 (identical to those that would have occurred if Carter had won), Ford is unexpectedly defeated by Jesse Helms in the Republican primary. Undeterred, the incumbent president chooses to run as an independent candidate in the general election. Meanwhile, the polarizing Shirley Chisholm proves to be victorious on the Democratic side, leading to one of the most hotly contested presidential elections in American history.

Trial 1:

Shirley Chisholm/Jerry Brown (D) - 341 Electoral Votes; 35.2% of the Popular Vote
Jesse Helms/George Wallace (R) - 197 Electoral Votes; 35.4% of the Popular Vote
Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (I) - 0 Electoral Votes; 29.4% of the Popular Vote

Trial 2:

Shirley Chisholm/Jerry Brown (D) - 380 Electoral Votes; 39.5% of the Popular Vote
Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (I) - 127 Electoral Votes; 30.1% of the Popular Vote
Jesse Helms/George Wallace (R) - 31 Electoral Votes; 30.4% of the Popular Vote

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Chisholm-Weicker-Wallace Under 1968 Conditions:

[diptheriadan]

I copied Dar's scenario to see if it was a fluke...It wasn't.

Lowell Weicker (R-CT)-19,559,950/32%/238
Shirley Chisholm (D-NY)-20,120,214/33%/155
George C. Wallace (AI-AL)-20,865,376/34%/145

According to the game, Chisholm wins. So you have George Wallace with the most actual votes, Weicker with the most electoral votes, and Chisholm with the most congressional votes. So..Basically Civil War.

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^I like that map a lot better. The popular vote split is near-perfect and all three candidates win at least ten states, not to mention the overall aesthetic.

[LLR]

Ran an interesting election in 1976

LLR/Southern Gothic 68 EVs, 36%
Gerald Ford/Bob Dole 470 EVs, 44%
Leinad/Ted Bessell 0 EVs, 19%

Leinad was initially favored in Georgia, but it returned to a tossup by Election Day.

By 9:00, Ford had a significant PV lead and had won many key states. It was looking like LLR's coalition would have to be significantly more Western than the typical Democratic one for him to have any chance.

At 9:49, Ford hit 200 EVs while LLR was stuck with 21. Just four minutes later, Texas pushed Ford to 270. LLR and SG cried a lot that night.

Leinad's Best States
Georgia 37%, 2nd place
DC 30%, 2nd place
Arkansas 25%
Louisiana 24%
North Carolina 24%
Texas 24%
Virginia 24%
California 24%

Leinad's Worst States
Utah 10%
Idaho 11%
Nebraska 11%
Kansas 12%
Arizona 12%
Oklahoma 12%
Wyoming 12%

The irony being that this is probably a reverse of Johnson's performance in 2016

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This scenario is my favorite by far.

In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy narrowly escapes assassination during a Democratic Party event when Senator B. Everett Jordan of North Carolina is mistaken for him and killed instead. Kennedy goes on to defeat Nixon and Wallace in the general election, but becomes unpopular soon after taking office due to failing to keep the promises he made to his liberal base. Anger among conservatives allows Senator Jesse Helms (who won a special election to replace B . Everett Jordan in 1968) to win the Republican primary in 1972 and defeat Kennedy in November. However, Helms soon becomes unpopular himself, and by 1976, the liberal wing of the Democratic Party manages to score a victory with the election of Geraldine Ferraro as the first female president.

By the time 1980 rolls around, many view Ferraro as too liberal, and moderate Democrats draft Robert Kennedy to challenge her in the primary. Ferraro defeats Kennedy in the primary, so he instead decides to mount a centrist independent bid for the presidency. Meanwhile, former President Jesse Helms wins the Republican nomination, leading to the first presidential election featuring three former, current, or future presidents since 1912. The results are as follows:

Geraldine Ferraro - 160 Electoral Votes; 33% of the Popular Vote
Jesse Helms - 229 Electoral Votes; 33% of the Popular Vote
Robert Kennedy - 149 Electoral Votes; 33% of the Popular Vote

The House of Representatives chooses to seat Ferraro in a contingent election due to being under Democratic control. Ferraro's victory comes despite winning third place in the popular vote, with Kennedy coming in first and Helms coming in second. Here are the results screens:

Interesting election, to say the least.