OH-Sen: Cincinnati Councilman P.G. Sittenfeld likely running

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Couldn't find these numbers already posted in this thread, but PPP has Strickland and Portman tied up at 45-45 with 10% undecided.

Portman leading Sittenfeld 50-31 there. Time to give up on him, LeBron.

[moderatevoter]

Mike Lee endorses Portman. Sorry, Adam. Probably not getting that primary you wanted.

[Zioneer]

Mike Lee endorses Portman. Sorry, Adam. Probably not getting that primary you wanted.

Man, Mike Lee is so establishment these days.

[LeBron]

Mike Lee endorses Portman. Sorry, Adam. Probably not getting that primary you wanted.

Portman was never going to get a strong primary challenger. The Ohio Tea Party isn't very strong to begin with, and some of the big names like Mandel and Jordan were never going to run.

It didn't help Zawistowski's cause either to find a primary challenger to Portman when the Ohio GOP (who have already endorsed Portman) threatened all of the state legislative Tea Partiers to support/not run against Portman or else. Most of them complied and there's only a small handful of county GOP chairmen and state legislators who haven't endorsed him yet.

So at this point, if Portman does get a primary challenger, it will likely be a no name who Portman ignores.

[Vega]

So at this point, if Portman does get a primary challenger, it will likely be a no name who Portman ignores.

But that challenger will still probably get like 6-8% of the vote because of rural counties.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Mike Lee endorses Portman. Sorry, Adam. Probably not getting that primary you wanted.

Portman was never going to get a strong primary challenger. The Ohio Tea Party isn't very strong to begin with, and some of the big names like Mandel and Jordan were never going to run.

It didn't help Zawistowski's cause either to find a primary challenger to Portman when the Ohio GOP (who have already endorsed Portman) threatened all of the state legislative Tea Partiers to support/not run against Portman or else. Most of them complied and there's only a small handful of county GOP chairmen and state legislators who haven't endorsed him yet.

So at this point, if Portman does get a primary challenger, it will likely be a no name who Portman ignores.

Any chance of Matt Lynch trying? Or is he just going to challenge Joyce again?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Mike Lee endorses Portman. Sorry, Adam. Probably not getting that primary you wanted.

Portman was never going to get a strong primary challenger. The Ohio Tea Party isn't very strong to begin with, and some of the big names like Mandel and Jordan were never going to run.

It didn't help Zawistowski's cause either to find a primary challenger to Portman when the Ohio GOP (who have already endorsed Portman) threatened all of the state legislative Tea Partiers to support/not run against Portman or else. Most of them complied and there's only a small handful of county GOP chairmen and state legislators who haven't endorsed him yet.

So at this point, if Portman does get a primary challenger, it will likely be a no name who Portman ignores.

Any chance of Matt Lynch trying? Or is he just going to challenge Joyce again?

Maybe, but I doubt it.  I think he's about done.

[LeBron]

Mike Lee endorses Portman. Sorry, Adam. Probably not getting that primary you wanted.

Portman was never going to get a strong primary challenger. The Ohio Tea Party isn't very strong to begin with, and some of the big names like Mandel and Jordan were never going to run.

It didn't help Zawistowski's cause either to find a primary challenger to Portman when the Ohio GOP (who have already endorsed Portman) threatened all of the state legislative Tea Partiers to support/not run against Portman or else. Most of them complied and there's only a small handful of county GOP chairmen and state legislators who haven't endorsed him yet.

So at this point, if Portman does get a primary challenger, it will likely be a no name who Portman ignores.

Any chance of Matt Lynch trying? Or is he just going to challenge Joyce again?

Joyce is a very good friend of LaTourette's and he got significant help from him in his re-election primary bid against Lynch. Despite being heavily outspent, Lynch did come relatively close to knocking Joyce off so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ran again for that. I don't think he'll run for Senate.

So at this point, if Portman does get a primary challenger, it will likely be a no name who Portman ignores.

But that challenger will still probably get like 6-8% of the vote because of rural counties.

Well yeah. Even if it's a joke candidate, there's always people who will vote for the primary challenger to the incumbent.

[Miles]

Mayor Coleman is endorsing Strickland. Good sign for him, as Coleman was dragging his feet in endorsing FitzGerald and almost ran against Strickland himself in '06.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Mayor Coleman is endorsing Strickland. Good sign for him, as Coleman was dragging his feet in endorsing FitzGerald and almost ran against Strickland himself in '06.

Actually, he did run against Strickland, but dropped out before the primary.

[moderatevoter]

Sittenfeld disclosure months late; investigation likely

[Flake]

Sittenfeld disclosure months late; investigation likely

"Sittenfeld wouldn't run if he had a scandal because he saw what happened to FitzGerald"

RIP FITZY TALKING POINT (2015-2015)

[morgieb]

Sittenfeld disclosure months late; investigation likely

Poor Fitzy.

[Vega]

Maybe an endorsement from Adam is the kiss of scandals to Democratic candidates in Ohio.

[TJ in Oregon]

Sittenfeld disclosure months late; investigation likely

"Sittenfeld wouldn't run if he had a scandal because he saw what happened to FitzGerald"

RIP FITZY TALKING POINT (2015-2015)

Men, this is a nothing scandal (at least at the moment).

[RogueBeaver]

Typically fantastic Kondik on the psephology.

[Miles]

^ My favorite part was when he used my numbers for the VA comparison

You must be logged in to read this quote.

[moderatevoter]

Portman raised $3M in Q1. He has around $8M Cash on Hand.

Dang.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He has to swell his warchest. Portman and Kasich werent contested last time around, due to the early demise of Lee Fisher and Fitzgerald. I think Strickland will have raised arlbout 4 million, still good.

[RogueBeaver]

Sittenfeld staffing up.

[Miles]

The OH Democratic Party endorsed Strickland.

[LeBron]

I'm ashamed of the ODP. We're starting to go into FDP bad territory by nominating perennial losers for offices again and again (Fisher and now Strickland), and I had hoped when we got rid of Redfern we would see a good amount of reform in the selection process. Guess not.

Giving Chairman Pepper the benefit of the doubt he did want to remain neutral plus the endorsement of Strickland was really out of his power to stop (the blame goes on Strickland's organized labor friends who got this vote called). However, our party bylaws specifically state that an endorsement needs to be held in the year the primary takes place (2016, not 2015) and the endorsement needs to be "carefully considered" if there's more than one person running for the nomination and they completely ignored Sittenfeld's candidacy. In fact, the only reason they had this meeting rushed was because they knew Sittenfeld would be absent (due to pre-scheduled campaign events) and they wanted to keep this as secret as possible. If this endorsement says anything, it says that Strickland after finding out he's been out-raised is beyond desperate to crush Sittenfeld's candidacy and is scared to run on his record in a Democratic primary.

I'm usually against competitive primaries, but after what happened last year, and given the large contrast between Strickland and Sittenfeld, we should be given an engaging, contested primary. I myself would much rather prefer Strickland drop out, but that's much more unlikely than a primary.

A primary would help Strickland get back into fighting shape and Sittenfeld would be able to build his name statewide (look how well the Chiles-Nelson FL primary went for Nelson or how well the Lausche-Gilligan OH primary went for Gilligan). There's Ohio Democrats who want an experienced candidate next year, but there's also Ohio Democrats who want a change from the past retreads towards younger aspiring and energetic candidates.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm ashamed of the ODP. We're starting to go into FDP bad territory by nominating perennial losers for offices again and again (Fisher and now Strickland), and I had hoped when we got rid of Redfern we would see a good amount of reform in the selection process. Guess not.

Giving Chairman Pepper the benefit of the doubt he did want to remain neutral plus the endorsement of Strickland was really out of his power to stop (the blame goes on Strickland's organized labor friends who got this vote called). However, our party bylaws specifically state that an endorsement needs to be held in the year the primary takes place (2016, not 2015) and the endorsement needs to be "carefully considered" if there's more than one person running for the nomination and they completely ignored Sittenfeld's candidacy. In fact, the only reason they had this meeting rushed was because they knew Sittenfeld would be absent (due to pre-scheduled campaign events) and they wanted to keep this as secret as possible. If this endorsement says anything, it says that Strickland after finding out he's been out-raised is beyond desperate to crush Sittenfeld's candidacy and is scared to run on his record in a Democratic primary.

I'm usually against competitive primaries, but after what happened last year, and given the large contrast between Strickland and Sittenfeld, we should be given an engaging, contested primary. I myself would much rather prefer Strickland drop out, but that's much more unlikely than a primary.

A primary would help Strickland get back into fighting shape and Sittenfeld would be able to build his name statewide (look how well the Chiles-Nelson FL primary went for Nelson or how well the Lausche-Gilligan OH primary went for Gilligan). There's Ohio Democrats who want an experienced candidate next year, but there's also Ohio Democrats who want a change from the past retreads towards younger aspiring and energetic candidates.

Lol

[LeBron]

I'm ashamed of the ODP. We're starting to go into FDP bad territory by nominating perennial losers for offices again and again (Fisher and now Strickland), and I had hoped when we got rid of Redfern we would see a good amount of reform in the selection process. Guess not.

Giving Chairman Pepper the benefit of the doubt he did want to remain neutral plus the endorsement of Strickland was really out of his power to stop (the blame goes on Strickland's organized labor friends who got this vote called). However, our party bylaws specifically state that an endorsement needs to be held in the year the primary takes place (2016, not 2015) and the endorsement needs to be "carefully considered" if there's more than one person running for the nomination and they completely ignored Sittenfeld's candidacy. In fact, the only reason they had this meeting rushed was because they knew Sittenfeld would be absent (due to pre-scheduled campaign events) and they wanted to keep this as secret as possible. If this endorsement says anything, it says that Strickland after finding out he's been out-raised is beyond desperate to crush Sittenfeld's candidacy and is scared to run on his record in a Democratic primary.

I'm usually against competitive primaries, but after what happened last year, and given the large contrast between Strickland and Sittenfeld, we should be given an engaging, contested primary. I myself would much rather prefer Strickland drop out, but that's much more unlikely than a primary.

A primary would help Strickland get back into fighting shape and Sittenfeld would be able to build his name statewide (look how well the Chiles-Nelson FL primary went for Nelson or how well the Lausche-Gilligan OH primary went for Gilligan). There's Ohio Democrats who want an experienced candidate next year, but there's also Ohio Democrats who want a change from the past retreads towards younger aspiring and energetic candidates.

Lol

Thank you for your insightful contribution!

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm ashamed of the ODP. We're starting to go into FDP bad territory by nominating perennial losers for offices again and again (Fisher and now Strickland), and I had hoped when we got rid of Redfern we would see a good amount of reform in the selection process. Guess not.

Giving Chairman Pepper the benefit of the doubt he did want to remain neutral plus the endorsement of Strickland was really out of his power to stop (the blame goes on Strickland's organized labor friends who got this vote called). However, our party bylaws specifically state that an endorsement needs to be held in the year the primary takes place (2016, not 2015) and the endorsement needs to be "carefully considered" if there's more than one person running for the nomination and they completely ignored Sittenfeld's candidacy. In fact, the only reason they had this meeting rushed was because they knew Sittenfeld would be absent (due to pre-scheduled campaign events) and they wanted to keep this as secret as possible. If this endorsement says anything, it says that Strickland after finding out he's been out-raised is beyond desperate to crush Sittenfeld's candidacy and is scared to run on his record in a Democratic primary.

I'm usually against competitive primaries, but after what happened last year, and given the large contrast between Strickland and Sittenfeld, we should be given an engaging, contested primary. I myself would much rather prefer Strickland drop out, but that's much more unlikely than a primary.

A primary would help Strickland get back into fighting shape and Sittenfeld would be able to build his name statewide (look how well the Chiles-Nelson FL primary went for Nelson or how well the Lausche-Gilligan OH primary went for Gilligan). There's Ohio Democrats who want an experienced candidate next year, but there's also Ohio Democrats who want a change from the past retreads towards younger aspiring and energetic candidates.

Lol

Thank you for your insightful contribution!

Any time

I get that you really like Sittenfield, but about 99% of what you said in that post is simply not based in reality.  You're just not being objective about this and what you posted was really just a bunch of unskewedpolls.com-level spin.  Yes, I could explain point-by-point why pretty much none of your analysis in that post was sound as I've done with some of your past posts on this race, but its pretty clear that nothing I or anyone else says is going to make you see the light here and if that's the case, what's the point?  I don't wanna keep going in circles just for the sake of arguing.