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« on: January 04, 2015, 02:14:04 AM »

Saw this thread on another forum. Note that this asks for the perfect Presidential candidate for the American electorate not yourself.

Man in his early sixties born to a working-class, blue-collar family in Indiana, Ohio, or Pennsylvania. Served in a combat role in the US Marine Corps in Vietnam, winning several medals and went on to go to college (probably some large Midwestern state university NOT Penn State) to become a popular district attorney who successfully prosecuted a notorious serial killer, various mob operations, and a corrupt local political machine among others. Eventually elected as governor who balanced the budget while maintaining public services and presiding over economic growth before moving to the Senate. Currently happily married to his wife of 40+years with three grown children of whom at least one has babies and at least one is serving/served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. Belongs to an inoffensive mainline Protestant denomination (Methodist or Lutheran), is a genuine outdoorsman, and a moderate gun enthusiast. Speaks in "standard" American English in a plainspoken but intelligent manner, with many biblical and historical allusions, anecdotes, and humour. Is usually cheerful and optimistic in tone, but unafraid of giving a "give 'em hell"-style speech when necessary.

Politically speaking a centre-left traditional Democrat. Not overly concerned with social issues but moderately pro-choice and gay marriage, along with supporting an end to the Drug Wars and being rather sceptical of gun control. Also largely sceptical of race-based affirmative action. With regards to immigration, favours a path to citizenship for those currently in the US while tailoring future immigration policy towards the economic needs of the country, prosecution of businesses that hire illegal immigrants, opposes "guest-worker" programs, and supports English as an official language. Generally supportive of civil liberties-strongly supports reforming the PATRIOT act and opposed SOPA/PIPA (strongly supporting copyright law reform). Main passion lies in "bread and butter" economic issues where he is strongly populist and anti-Wall Street, strongly favouring retaining and strengthening programs such as Social Security and Medicare along with promoting vocational education and infrastructure spending. Not afraid of "big ideas" such as landing a man on Mars or sweeping expansion of nuclear power. Favours and defends the provisions of ACA (while favouring adjustments along the German model of health care) without mentioning its name too often, nonetheless is unafraid to stand by the Obama administration. Mostly pro-union and rather disfavourable to trade aggrements. In foreign policy favours reduction of international commitments while using drone warfare and special operations to keep genuinely dangerous groups in check. Opposes "waste" in military spending (ie F-35) and favours it being spent better elsewhere.

I've made him a composite of various Democrats including Joe Biden, Brian Schweitzer, Jim Webb, Sherrod Brown, and Bob Casey.
 

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 02:51:10 AM »

Honestly this is something that changes over time.  The perfect candidate in the '60s is different than the perfect candidate in the '00s.
I think your description is a bit outdated to be honest.

Obama was the perfect candidate in 208, I think, just like Clinton was the perfect candidate in 1992.
I would say that in 2016 the perfect candidate is a woman, since that's a demographic that has been underrepresented. Probably a white woman, since having a minority woman after 8 years of Obama would probably be too much for a big part of the country (not me  of course).
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 02:13:12 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Moulton
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 07:47:00 AM »


Well he needs to win some higher political office, nonetheless I totally agree. This guy has a great resume.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 10:01:41 PM »

This looks like it was written 15 years ago. The electorate has changed and the Baby Boomers are aging into the retirement pool and their culture wars should go with them. I had hoped with Obama that we were finally past the days of candidates who were old enough to have been part of the culture conflicts of the 1960s, too young for Vietnam or the counterculture or the civil rights movement, but the Democrats seem to insist on dragging up the Baby Boomers for one last hurrah with Clinton, unfortunately. Nevertheless, as Kennedy said half a century ago when the Boomers were young themselves, "Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans..." It is time for presidents born in the 1960s who were in diapers during Woodstock and pawing the TV screen during Tet, who didn't have to choose between staying or going because the draft was abolished when they were in elementary school, who had Reagan as the presidential picture on the wall when they graduated high school. It is time to shove the Boomers off the stage of history and let another generation have its turn.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2015, 09:57:28 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2015, 07:48:21 PM by Lincoln Republican »

Is a male

Is from a large state and a large city

Is a moderate Republican

Is attractive, athletic, extremely bright, very ambitious, and has had his sights set on the Presidency of the United States since high school when he served as a Student Council President

Is a remarkably accomplished and talented public speaker and debater, knows how to work a crowd, and can be very charming  

Is happily married with an attractive wife and three attractive adult children, one son and two daughters, and seven beautiful little grandchildren

Their three children are happily married, the son and his wife have two sons,  the oldest daughter and her husband have two sons and two daughters, the youngest daughter and her husband have one son

Graduated magna cum laude from Columbia University with a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Political Science

Graduated magna cum laude from Yale University with a Juris Doctor Degree, and served as an Editor of the Yale Law Journal  

Enlisted in the United States Navy, served for three years with distinction, achieving the rank of Petty officer, first class

Worked at the State Department as a staff member in the office of the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs for two years
    
Practiced law as a senior partner at a prominent law firm for two years, noted for his knowledge, fairness, and effective court room appearances

Member of the City School Board for one term  

Member of the City Council for one term

Member of the State House for one term

Member of the State Senate for one term

Member of the U.S. House of Representatives for one term  

Lecturer in law and public policy at Harvard University for two years

U.S. Secretary of the Navy for two years

U.S. Secretary of State for four years  

Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his accomplishments as Secretary of State

Mayor of his city, served for four years, restoring order and prosperity to the city

Elected Governor, served for four years, chosen as the best Governor in the U.S. for four straight years

Elected U.S. Senate, serving for six years, noted for his ability to work across the aisle and to getting constructive legislation passed
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2015, 10:43:16 PM »

Fiscal Conservative in every area except education
Social Liberal
Civil Liberty Libertarian
Foreign Policy Pragmatic
Grew Up in a middle class family
Successful as Governor of a Big state(15 electoral votes or more)
Able to work with other party
Strong economic growth in his state
Proven ability to deliver on campaign promises
Speaking ability like Reagan or Clinton







 
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2015, 02:15:28 AM »

Saw this thread on another forum. Note that this asks for the perfect Presidential candidate for the American electorate not yourself.

Man in his early sixties born to a working-class, blue-collar family in Indiana, Ohio, or Pennsylvania. Served in a combat role in the US Marine Corps in Vietnam, winning several medals and went on to go to college (probably some large Midwestern state university NOT Penn State) to become a popular district attorney who successfully prosecuted a notorious serial killer, various mob operations, and a corrupt local political machine among others. Eventually elected as governor who balanced the budget while maintaining public services and presiding over economic growth before moving to the Senate. Currently happily married to his wife of 40+years with three grown children of whom at least one has babies and at least one is serving/served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. Belongs to an inoffensive mainline Protestant denomination (Methodist or Lutheran), is a genuine outdoorsman, and a moderate gun enthusiast. Speaks in "standard" American English in a plainspoken but intelligent manner, with many biblical and historical allusions, anecdotes, and humour. Is usually cheerful and optimistic in tone, but unafraid of giving a "give 'em hell"-style speech when necessary.

Politically speaking a centre-left traditional Democrat. Not overly concerned with social issues but moderately pro-choice and gay marriage, along with supporting an end to the Drug Wars and being rather sceptical of gun control. Also largely sceptical of race-based affirmative action. With regards to immigration, favours a path to citizenship for those currently in the US while tailoring future immigration policy towards the economic needs of the country, prosecution of businesses that hire illegal immigrants, opposes "guest-worker" programs, and supports English as an official language. Generally supportive of civil liberties-strongly supports reforming the PATRIOT act and opposed SOPA/PIPA (strongly supporting copyright law reform). Main passion lies in "bread and butter" economic issues where he is strongly populist and anti-Wall Street, strongly favouring retaining and strengthening programs such as Social Security and Medicare along with promoting vocational education and infrastructure spending. Not afraid of "big ideas" such as landing a man on Mars or sweeping expansion of nuclear power. Favours and defends the provisions of ACA (while favouring adjustments along the German model of health care) without mentioning its name too often, nonetheless is unafraid to stand by the Obama administration. Mostly pro-union and rather disfavourable to trade aggrements. In foreign policy favours reduction of international commitments while using drone warfare and special operations to keep genuinely dangerous groups in check. Opposes "waste" in military spending (ie F-35) and favours it being spent better elsewhere.

I've made him a composite of various Democrats including Joe Biden, Brian Schweitzer, Jim Webb, Sherrod Brown, and Bob Casey.
 


This screams Webb
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 09:24:57 PM »

Well my guess is that the perfect candidate would be someone whose policy positions lined up with what the public was in favor of doing ($15 an hour minimum wage, no new 'free trade' agreements, no more bailouts for the banksters, universal health care, all troops brought back home, etc.) and was able to convey said beliefs in such a way as to drown out the inevitable attack said positions would invite from the capitalist press and employers.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 10:07:27 PM »

Saw this thread on another forum. Note that this asks for the perfect Presidential candidate for the American electorate not yourself.

Man in his early sixties born to a working-class, blue-collar family in Indiana, Ohio, or Pennsylvania. Served in a combat role in the US Marine Corps in Vietnam, winning several medals and went on to go to college (probably some large Midwestern state university NOT Penn State) to become a popular district attorney who successfully prosecuted a notorious serial killer, various mob operations, and a corrupt local political machine among others. Eventually elected as governor who balanced the budget while maintaining public services and presiding over economic growth before moving to the Senate. Currently happily married to his wife of 40+years with three grown children of whom at least one has babies and at least one is serving/served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. Belongs to an inoffensive mainline Protestant denomination (Methodist or Lutheran), is a genuine outdoorsman, and a moderate gun enthusiast. Speaks in "standard" American English in a plainspoken but intelligent manner, with many biblical and historical allusions, anecdotes, and humour. Is usually cheerful and optimistic in tone, but unafraid of giving a "give 'em hell"-style speech when necessary.

Politically speaking a centre-left traditional Democrat. Not overly concerned with social issues but moderately pro-choice and gay marriage, along with supporting an end to the Drug Wars and being rather sceptical of gun control. Also largely sceptical of race-based affirmative action. With regards to immigration, favours a path to citizenship for those currently in the US while tailoring future immigration policy towards the economic needs of the country, prosecution of businesses that hire illegal immigrants, opposes "guest-worker" programs, and supports English as an official language. Generally supportive of civil liberties-strongly supports reforming the PATRIOT act and opposed SOPA/PIPA (strongly supporting copyright law reform). Main passion lies in "bread and butter" economic issues where he is strongly populist and anti-Wall Street, strongly favouring retaining and strengthening programs such as Social Security and Medicare along with promoting vocational education and infrastructure spending. Not afraid of "big ideas" such as landing a man on Mars or sweeping expansion of nuclear power. Favours and defends the provisions of ACA (while favouring adjustments along the German model of health care) without mentioning its name too often, nonetheless is unafraid to stand by the Obama administration. Mostly pro-union and rather disfavourable to trade aggrements. In foreign policy favours reduction of international commitments while using drone warfare and special operations to keep genuinely dangerous groups in check. Opposes "waste" in military spending (ie F-35) and favours it being spent better elsewhere.

I've made him a composite of various Democrats including Joe Biden, Brian Schweitzer, Jim Webb, Sherrod Brown, and Bob Casey.
 


This screams Webb

Don't expect many positive things about Webb on this forum. He wouldn't break any glass ceilings and God knows how desperate many dems are to pander to minority groups and women (a la Hillary and the Castros), he's not a True Leftist like Sanders, and many see him as not electable even though he would appeal to the desperately needed group of working class dems that so many here are eager to ignore.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2016, 06:59:07 PM »

Fiscal Conservative in every area except education
Social Liberal
Civil Liberty Libertarian
Foreign Policy Pragmatic
Grew Up in a middle class family
Successful as Governor of a Big state(15 electoral votes or more)
Able to work with other party
Strong economic growth in his state
Proven ability to deliver on campaign promises
Speaking ability like Reagan or Clinton







 


This would be kasich in everything but speaking
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