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« on: December 06, 2014, 07:39:59 PM »
« edited: December 06, 2014, 08:04:47 PM by politicus »

Which country's party system resembles the one in your country the most?

For me: Finland

A fairly elaborate system like the Danish with 1 right wing populist party with no libertarian traits, 1 moderate conservative party, 1 big mainstream centre-right party with agrarian roots, 1 social liberal centrist party with environmentalism as major part of their platform, 1 small marginalized centrist Christian Democratic party, Social Democrats and a socialist alliance which includes old communists.

Differences: Finland "lacks" a libertarian party, has a Swedish minority party and only one leftist party represented in parliament (we got two).

Danish People's Party/Finn's Party
Liberal Alliance/none
Conservative Peoples Party/National Coalition Party
Liberals/Centre Party
none/Swedish People's Party

Christian Democrats/Christian Democrats
Social Liberals/Greens

Social Democrats/Social Democrats
Socialist People's Party/none
Red Green Alliance/Left Alliance




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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2014, 08:01:15 PM »

Among First World countries probably Australia
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2014, 10:18:35 PM »

Aside from the Senate, Canada.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 06:00:51 AM »
« Edited: December 07, 2014, 06:03:10 AM by New Canadaland »

UK maybe? At the federal level at least.
2.5 party system + nationalists
FPTP-elected lower house and an unelected upper house

At the provincial and municipal levels it gets a lot different.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 07:41:37 AM »

I'd say New Zealand. The UK and Canada are also fairly similar but the fact that they have three (or two point five) strong parties and various nationalists makes them a bit different.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 08:02:45 AM »

Woah, that's hard... Austria has had so many trends in the last years, that fundamentally changed our system...

We got one old, now just medium strong center-left and one center-right party that are constantly in coalition
One now medium strong (:/ ) radical rightist party
One of the strongest Green parties in the world
A (new) (European) liberal party with definitely some libertarian traits
(I'll exclude the TS because they ceased to be relevant about five minutes after the last election, and it just unnecessarily complicates things even more)

So... I have absolutely no clue... The nearest I can think of is Switzerland:

SP = SPÖ - old center-left party
CVP = ÖVP - old center-right party
SVP = FPÖ - newly strong party of the extreme right
Greens = Greens - naturally

it gets hard from now on, but one could see similarities between

FDP and NEOS

BDP could be seen as BZÖ-counterpart (formed from the SVP/FPÖ, both a bit less extreme than this party), but the BZÖ just is no force anymore in Austria, and will likely never be again

glp, EVP have no counterpart in Austria

Don't ask me to compare the tiny Swiss and tiny Austrian parties
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 08:08:39 AM »

The country closest to our party and election systems is ... Germany (from which we copy a lot).

The next closest is maybe Sweden.

Switzerland has a totally different system.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2014, 08:14:19 AM »

If we're just looking federally, Canada & the UK are very similar right now

1) Conservatives
2) Social Democrats
3) Liberals
4) Nationalists
5) Token Green

Of course, it gets all messed up provincially with our 5-6 different alignments Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2014, 08:56:27 AM »

Australia, though not all that much.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2014, 06:29:14 PM »
« Edited: December 07, 2014, 06:37:06 PM by politicus »

The country closest to our party and election systems is ... Germany (from which we copy a lot).

The next closest is maybe Sweden.

Switzerland has a totally different system.

Post WW2 it was almost an exact replica of the German, but it made better sense with the pre-Haider FPÖ, though I agree it is still much closer to Germany than Switzerland.

Austria/Germany

none/Linke
Greens/Greens
SPÖ/SPD
FPÖ/FDP (but that was only valid before Haider..)
ÖVP/CDU
NEOS/AfD

I don't see how Sweden resembles Austria that much - you lack the small Swedish centre-right parties and they don't have anything close to FPÖ, they also got the Greens, SocDem and Cons trio, but that's it. Norway might actualluy be slightly closer since the Progress Party is as close as you get to FPÖ anywhere and they also have SocDem/Cons as the big parties, but both countries have their SoCons in separate Christian Democratic parties, where you have them in ÖVP (afaik).
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2014, 06:49:23 PM »

The only country that looks remotely similar to the US, politically, is Australia.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2014, 02:55:40 AM »

The country closest to our party and election systems is ... Germany (from which we copy a lot).

The next closest is maybe Sweden.

Switzerland has a totally different system.

Post WW2 it was almost an exact replica of the German, but it made better sense with the pre-Haider FPÖ, though I agree it is still much closer to Germany than Switzerland.

Austria/Germany

none/Linke
Greens/Greens
SPÖ/SPD
FPÖ/FDP (but that was only valid before Haider..)
ÖVP/CDU
NEOS/AfD

I don't see how Sweden resembles Austria that much - you lack the small Swedish centre-right parties and they don't have anything close to FPÖ, they also got the Greens, SocDem and Cons trio, but that's it. Norway might actualluy be slightly closer since the Progress Party is as close as you get to FPÖ anywhere and they also have SocDem/Cons as the big parties, but both countries have their SoCons in separate Christian Democratic parties, where you have them in ÖVP (afaik).

Now:

Austria/Germany

KPÖ/Linke (The Left in Bavaria for example is not much stronger than the KPÖ in Austria)
Pirates/Pirates
Greens/Greens
SPÖ/SPD
NEOS/FDP
ÖVP/CDU
FPÖ/AfD
None/NPD
TS/None
BZÖ/None
None/FW

In that party system sense, Germany is really closest to us.

I then thought Sweden would be next closest because of their election system (4% threshold), rather than Germany's 5%.
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2014, 03:13:06 AM »

I don't think the UK has any particularly points of comparison, but I can think of some other rather tenuous comparisons:

1) Mexico and Canada. A sprawling centrist party that is seen as rather corrupt and self-serving, and is ran by a pretty boy. Snipped at by a conservative party and a scrappy socially democratic party; as well as curious Greens that don't gel very well with the global green movement.

2) Thailand and the USA (Second Party System) - urban elite that previously dominated country's affairs disturbed by shady populist who appeal to rural poors. The party representing the capital's elite are democratically ungunned and power is redistributed from them; to other cronies in different places.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2014, 06:19:11 AM »

Here's another equally tenuous example: an ostensibly centre-left party clings to the memory of a famous and well-loved name that essentially brought the country into existence as a secular state. This famous name and an obsession with "secularism", is not enough to save them from the rise and rise of an autocratic, heavily-religious and reform-minded neoliberal.

(Turkey and India)

I suppose one can also draw analogies from the relationships between the INC/BJP/AAP and Pakistani politics; with the Muslim League, the People's Party and Imran Khan's mob filling in for those Indian parties respectively.
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2014, 08:03:28 AM »
« Edited: December 08, 2014, 11:46:01 AM by politicus »

Sweden and Norway are also quite close. Both countries have large big tent conservative parties with urban dominance and strong Social Democratic parties + basically the same sort of minor parties on the centre-right. Main differences are that Norway doesn't have a strong, well established Green party and their right wing populists have some libertarian positions, while SD doesn't + Norway has two left wing parties and Sweden one. The current weird quasi-libertarian policies of the Swedish Centre Party makes the comparison less neat, but they are still very similar.

Norway/Sweden

Red/none
Socialist Left/Left Party
Labour/Social Democrats
Greens/Greens
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Centre Party/Centre Party (but significant differences)
Liberals/Liberal People's Party
Christian People's Party/Christian Democrats
Conservatives/Moderates
Progress Party/Sweden Democrats (but significant differences)
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2014, 08:17:27 AM »

Don't Norway have a cute fledgling Green party that's doing decent in the polls?

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 08:33:19 AM »

Don't Norway have a cute fledgling Green party that's doing decent in the polls?


They got 2.8% last year and have 1 MP, dunno how they are doing in the polls, but they are not really an established part of the party system in the same way Mp is in Sweden. Still, I probably should have included them.
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