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« on: December 06, 2014, 02:43:43 PM »

Well?
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2014, 02:47:19 PM »

NOTA?
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2014, 02:53:19 PM »

BJP by a wide margin, Fidesz second.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2014, 02:56:08 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2014, 06:24:19 PM by CrabCake »

Fisdez and the GOP, to my knowledge, do not run effectively paramilitary wings.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2014, 03:16:39 PM »

Fisdez and the GOP, to my knowledge, do not have what are effectively paramilitary wings.

Cliven Bundy?
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2014, 03:32:08 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2014, 03:42:07 PM by politicus »

Fisdez and the GOP, to my knowledge, do not have what are effectively paramilitary wings.

You are wrong about Fidesz:

https://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/2013/03/10/football-hooligans-as-fideszs-police-force/

https://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/tag/workers-militia/

Party manager Gabor Kubatov (who dabbles as president of the board of Ferencváros Football Club in his spare time..) uses the Fradi hooligans as a de facto party militia and he has an alert chain “Riadó lánc” of goons who have to be ready on an hours notice to "defend the party" (or beat up opponents..). May not be the BJP, but they are getting there.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2014, 03:44:46 PM »

Atlas Forum threads, everybody (BJP, by the way)

Fisdez and the GOP, to my knowledge, do not have what are effectively paramilitary wings.

Cliven Bundy?

You're going to pretend that he had relevance and connection to the Republican Party?
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2014, 03:46:33 PM »

The Republican Party does far more harm to the world than either of the other two.

So, obviously the Republican Party (sane).
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2014, 03:54:47 PM »


Okay, I will admit that BJP is pretty bad. As for Fisdez, I know noting about Hungarian politics but skimming through their Wikipedia article I don't see anything shockingly horrible.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 04:03:04 PM »


Okay, I will admit that BJP is pretty bad. As for Fisdez, I know noting about Hungarian politics but skimming through their Wikipedia article I don't see anything shockingly horrible.

Superficially Fidesz could look like a standard centre-rght party with a few problematic positions, but in addition to their xenophobia they have strong authoritarian tendencies and dubious connections to people even further right. You wouldn't like them if you had to live in Hungary.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 04:06:17 PM »


Okay, I will admit that BJP is pretty bad. As for Fisdez, I know noting about Hungarian politics but skimming through their Wikipedia article I don't see anything shockingly horrible.

Superficially Fidesz could look like a standard centre-rght party with a few problematic positions, but in addition to their xenophobia they have strong authoritarian tendencies and dubious connections to people even further right. You wouldn't like them if you had to live in Hungary.

I see. Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2014, 04:42:01 PM »

Atlas Forum threads, everybody (BJP, by the way)

Fisdez and the GOP, to my knowledge, do not have what are effectively paramilitary wings.

Cliven Bundy?

You're going to pretend that he had relevance and connection to the Republican Party?
Don't let facts stand in the way of Lefty snark.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2014, 05:07:03 PM »

Fisdez and the GOP, to my knowledge, do not have what are effectively paramilitary wings.

You are wrong about Fidesz:

https://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/2013/03/10/football-hooligans-as-fideszs-police-force/

https://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/tag/workers-militia/

Party manager Gabor Kubatov (who dabbles as president of the board of Ferencváros Football Club in his spare time..) uses the Fradi hooligans as a de facto party militia and he has an alert chain “Riadó lánc” of goons who have to be ready on an hours notice to "defend the party" (or beat up opponents..). May not be the BJP, but they are getting there.

I stand corrected. I always assumed that Jobbik ran the hooligan gangs.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2014, 06:23:07 PM »

All of them?
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2014, 03:00:44 PM »

BJP easily
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2014, 05:13:23 PM »

The Republican Party is pretty much on par with some of the worst offenders of human rights in human history, given the sort of things its members and leaders have engaged in over the years, which include, but are not limited to:

Genocide of Native Americans, engaging in naked imperialist wars abroad (Cuba, The Philippines, the various 'Banana Wars' of the late 19th and early 20th Century, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq), acting to imprison or murder political dissidents (the Black Panthers), criminal denial of basic human needs in favor of spending more money on armaments, etc.

Perhaps only the Democratic Party is worse, in terms of a major national political party in existence today, given its record of promoting and consolidating the institution of slavery in the United States.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 05:21:16 PM »

LOL True Leftists are using Oldiesfreak talking points now.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2014, 06:05:31 PM »

The Republican Party is pretty much on par with some of the worst offenders of human rights in human history, given the sort of things its members and leaders have engaged in over the years, which include, but are not limited to:

Genocide of Native Americans, engaging in naked imperialist wars abroad (Cuba, The Philippines, the various 'Banana Wars' of the late 19th and early 20th Century, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq), acting to imprison or murder political dissidents (the Black Panthers), criminal denial of basic human needs in favor of spending more money on armaments, etc.

Perhaps only the Democratic Party is worse, in terms of a major national political party in existence today, given its record of promoting and consolidating the institution of slavery in the United States.

Tories would probably be worse than either tho.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2014, 07:04:13 PM »

Nah, that was pretty blatantly shoehorned in so TNF could avoid tacitly admitting Democrats are any sort of lesser evil.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2014, 07:07:46 PM »

The Republican Party is pretty much on par with some of the worst offenders of human rights in human history, given the sort of things its members and leaders have engaged in over the years, which include, but are not limited to:

Genocide of Native Americans, engaging in naked imperialist wars abroad (Cuba, The Philippines, the various 'Banana Wars' of the late 19th and early 20th Century, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq), acting to imprison or murder political dissidents (the Black Panthers), criminal denial of basic human needs in favor of spending more money on armaments, etc.

Perhaps only the Democratic Party is worse, in terms of a major national political party in existence today, given its record of promoting and consolidating the institution of slavery in the United States.

CCP? Worker's Party of Korea? Also as Sol says, by this reasoning the Tories can be blamed for the evils of the British Empire.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 10:46:00 PM »

The Republican Party is pretty much on par with some of the worst offenders of human rights in human history, given the sort of things its members and leaders have engaged in over the years, which include, but are not limited to:

Genocide of Native Americans, engaging in naked imperialist wars abroad (Cuba, The Philippines, the various 'Banana Wars' of the late 19th and early 20th Century, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq), acting to imprison or murder political dissidents (the Black Panthers), criminal denial of basic human needs in favor of spending more money on armaments, etc.

Perhaps only the Democratic Party is worse, in terms of a major national political party in existence today, given its record of promoting and consolidating the institution of slavery in the United States.

CCP? Worker's Party of Korea? Also as Sol says, by this reasoning the Tories can be blamed for the evils of the British Empire.

Khmer Rouge? etc. etc.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2014, 12:11:02 AM »

I have no idea what the first and last parties are but I don't see how they can be worse than the Republicans.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 12:12:20 AM »

I have no idea what the first and last parties are but I don't see how they can be worse than the Republicans.

They are. Read the thread.
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