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« on: December 03, 2014, 02:43:42 PM »

The 'choke hold' case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-eric-garner-chokehold-death-not-indicted-article-1.2031841
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 02:49:59 PM »

Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. What a country we live in.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 02:51:57 PM »

Of course he wasn't.  This is America, where cops can kill people for no reason with no legal repercussions.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 02:53:06 PM »

Kind of makes the whole "make cops wear body cameras" argument a bit toothless. I mean, this actually was on camera!
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 03:01:57 PM »

Another ham sandwich un-indicted.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 03:04:47 PM »

If you're black in this country, you better do your damnedest to follow every order the cops bark at you. If you don't they will kill you and face no legal repercussions for it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 03:14:22 PM »

Disgusting, they are all pigs.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 03:16:20 PM »

Of course he wasn't Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 03:16:38 PM »

Ugh, loathsome decision. Another terrible day for the American justice system.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 03:35:07 PM »

If you're black in this country, you better do your damnedest to follow every order the cops bark at you. If you don't they will kill you and face no legal repercussions for it.

Haha, you think that'll protect them? That's cute.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE
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Guy pulls into gas station, gets out, cop pulls up. The cop tells him to get his license out, and literally as soon as he turns, the cop shoots him. Repeatedly. The guy is screaming that he's shot, the cop handcuffs him on the ground, and then goes about getting his ID from his wallet while the guy is bleeding from his leg. No cares, just another day of police brutality.

It's really great stuff. Really, just great.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 03:36:05 PM »

I can't wait to hear Reaganfan's comments on this.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2014, 03:41:26 PM »

This really is troubling. Yeah, the whole cameras thing assumes that if they just murder someone they'll face repercussions. I guess not!
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 03:45:03 PM »

Hard to tell because of the editing in the video available via the link, but it appears that the cops initially tried to peaceably arrest him and he just plain failed to come peaceably.  Assuming that was the case, then unless it was explicitly against NYPD policy to use chokeholds, I can't see where there anything shown in that video that is actionable.  Might have been something that wasn't in that video that should have led to a charge, but without some other evidence, I can't fault the grand jury here, and I say that as someone who thinks both Wilson and the cops in the Cleveland case should be charged.

If you're black in this country, you better do your damnedest to follow every order the cops bark at you. If you don't they will kill you and face no legal repercussions for it.

Haha, you think that'll protect them? That's cute. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE
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Guy pulls into gas station, gets out, cop pulls up. The cop tells him to get his license out, and literally as soon as he turns, the cop shoots him. Repeatedly. The guy is screaming that he's shot, the cop handcuffs him on the ground, and then goes about getting his ID from his wallet while the guy is bleeding from his leg. No cares, just another day of police brutality.

Actually the cop in that case has been both fired from his job and has been charged with felony assault and battery "of a high and aggravated nature" and faces up to 20 years if convicted.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 03:50:18 PM »

The chokehold was banned in '93.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/24/nyregion/kelly-bans-choke-holds-by-officers.html
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 03:51:04 PM »

Hard to tell because of the editing in the video available via the link, but it appears that the cops initially tried to peaceably arrest him and he just plain failed to come peaceably.  Assuming that was the case, then unless it was explicitly against NYPD policy to use chokeholds, I can't see where there anything shown in that video that is actionable.  Might have been something that wasn't in that video that should have led to a charge, but without some other evidence, I can't fault the grand jury here, and I say that as someone who thinks both Wilson and the cops in the Cleveland case should be charged.

If you're black in this country, you better do your damnedest to follow every order the cops bark at you. If you don't they will kill you and face no legal repercussions for it.

Haha, you think that'll protect them? That's cute. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE
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Guy pulls into gas station, gets out, cop pulls up. The cop tells him to get his license out, and literally as soon as he turns, the cop shoots him. Repeatedly. The guy is screaming that he's shot, the cop handcuffs him on the ground, and then goes about getting his ID from his wallet while the guy is bleeding from his leg. No cares, just another day of police brutality.

Actually the cop in that case has been both fired from his job and has been charged with felony assault and battery "of a high and aggravated nature" and faces up to 20 years if convicted.

Chokehold has been banned since WELL before this officer was on the force.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2014, 04:24:18 PM »

I can't wait to hear Reaganfan's comments on this.

The guy had it coming, you see.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2014, 04:29:37 PM »

This is the most outrageous case I've ever seen.  HE HAD HIS HANDS IN THE AIR!!!
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2014, 04:43:51 PM »

I don't think the boys meant to kill Eric Garner, but at the very least, this looks like negligent behavior by police which led to his death.  When you add their chokehold, their non-responsiveness to his cries for help and their failure to provide CPR or medical attention, that's at the very least a negligent homicide.  For crying out loud, this was a probable cause determination and there's a video. 

But, it's hardly surprising.  Staten Island is where cops live, these people on the grand jury likely have friends and family in the NYPD. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2014, 05:03:24 PM »

Absolutely disgusting.  Hopefully this cop will suffer somehow. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2014, 05:12:03 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2014, 05:13:40 PM by Rockefeller GOP »

I can't wait to hear Reaganfan's comments on this.

What a stupid comment.  If you can't see the horrific difference between this and the Ferguson case ... Well, you're stupid.  This is caught on camera and the cop is BLATANTLY guilty.  I disagreed with the Ferguson decision too, but it's moronic to lump people who defend this (no one I've seen yet...) and those who have doubts about the guilt of Officer Wilson together.  Come on.

As for the OP, wow this is disturbing.  That cop should VERY CLEARLY be criminally charged...
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2014, 05:13:21 PM »

I can't wait to hear Reaganfan's comments on this.

What a stupid comment.  If you can't see the horrific difference between this and the Ferguson case ... Well, you're stupid.  This is caught on camera and the cop is BLATANTLY guilty.  I disagreed with the Ferguson decision too, but it's moronic to lump people who defend this (no one I've seen yet...) and those who have doubts about the guilt of Officer Wilson together.  Come on.

I guarantee you that Reaganfan will find a way to defend the cop in this situation. He defended the cop who murdered that 12-year-old in Ohio.
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 05:15:45 PM »

I can't wait to hear Reaganfan's comments on this.

What a stupid comment.  If you can't see the horrific difference between this and the Ferguson case ... Well, you're stupid.  This is caught on camera and the cop is BLATANTLY guilty.  I disagreed with the Ferguson decision too, but it's moronic to lump people who defend this (no one I've seen yet...) and those who have doubts about the guilt of Officer Wilson together.  Come on.

Uh... dude... if you're really not expecting Naso to side with the (white) cops on this...

Well, just wait.
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2014, 05:18:58 PM »

I can't wait to hear Reaganfan's comments on this.

What a stupid comment.  If you can't see the horrific difference between this and the Ferguson case ... Well, you're stupid.  This is caught on camera and the cop is BLATANTLY guilty.  I disagreed with the Ferguson decision too, but it's moronic to lump people who defend this (no one I've seen yet...) and those who have doubts about the guilt of Officer Wilson together.  Come on.

As for the OP, wow this is disturbing.  That cop should VERY CLEARLY be criminally charged...


Gramps's comments wasn't based just off Naso (Reagan fan's) comments on Ferguson, but several years worth of his posting as it relates to cops's actions against minorities.
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2014, 05:24:07 PM »

Well, here is at least one thing where Greece is better than the mighty US of A: putting behind bars homicidal cops.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 06:05:04 PM »

This is really disgusting.
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