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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2014, 06:52:24 PM »

France, since its political system is waaaaaay more democratic than the German one.
In what way?

France has the direct election of their president (with a tenure limit!!!!), the majority voting system, an upper house with independent members, and first and foremost, they have national referenda. Plus, a pay raise for the members of the National Assembly won't become effective until the next legislative period (like in the US).
Furthermore, France (like the US) knows what separation of powers means: delegates can't be members of the government, and high officials like judges, prosecutors, prefects and marshals can't become delegates. 
All in all: France is a democracy, Germany is not.

You're an idiot.
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2014, 07:51:45 PM »

France, since its political system is waaaaaay more democratic than the German one.
In what way?

France has the direct election of their president (with a tenure limit!!!!), the majority voting system, an upper house with independent members, and first and foremost, they have national referenda. Plus, a pay raise for the members of the National Assembly won't become effective until the next legislative period (like in the US).
Furthermore, France (like the US) knows what separation of powers means: delegates can't be members of the government, and high officials like judges, prosecutors, prefects and marshals can't become delegates. 
All in all: France is a democracy, Germany is not.

lol

What are you loling about?
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2014, 08:49:01 PM »


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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2014, 08:55:50 PM »

France.
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2014, 09:02:01 PM »


You just conflated majoritarian electoral systems & presidential systems with democracy. Weird, given that all other of the most developed & highly functional democracies are parliamentary systems.
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2014, 10:33:56 AM »

France is an overly centralised, poorly governed basketcase at present, but I'm far more of a Francophile than a Teuton-admirer

Germany I both prefer the German de-centralism and my experience with Germans on a personal level have been more positive than my experiences with the French (or rather to be fair with Parisians).

Never judge a nation on the inhabitants of its capital, they're almost inevitably elitist weirdos (and this is coming from a Londoner)
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2014, 01:29:36 AM »

I go with Hermann every time.
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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2014, 05:50:12 AM »

I dislike Germany slightly less than France.
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2014, 04:05:59 PM »

France is an overly centralised, poorly governed basketcase at present, but I'm far more of a Francophile than a Teuton-admirer

Germany I both prefer the German de-centralism and my experience with Germans on a personal level have been more positive than my experiences with the French (or rather to be fair with Parisians).

Never judge a nation on the inhabitants of its capital, they're almost inevitably elitist weirdos (and this is coming from a Londoner)

The inhabitants of a nations capital say a lot about the different European states even if people in capitals tend to be douchey than most people in a state, and in the French case it's not pretty (through I don't necessary have a worse impression of the French than the English or some other European states).
 
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2014, 04:47:03 PM »

My family is quite German in our ancestry, so this is an obvious answer for me.  Though I have had the incredible pleasure and good fortune to have been to France and St. Barths a few times (FWI), and I love French culture and French people.
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