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  Was there any difference between Romney and McCain?
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Arizona Iced Tea
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« on: November 08, 2019, 11:07:26 am »

So both of these guys lost to Obama, but was there any difference between the two on policy?
Or were they basically the same fiscal conservatives with only different names?
Had Romney been the nominee in 08 would he have beat Obama?
McCain in 12?
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 06:06:47 pm »

Mccain was more hawkish on foreign policy. But neither would have beaten Obama either time.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2019, 10:37:46 pm »

Yes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2020, 01:56:19 pm »

Yes, Mitt Romney is a much more principled leader and respectable human being. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2020, 02:01:37 pm »

McCain was probably more hawkish and to Romney’s left on domestic policy.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2020, 08:57:41 pm »

Though it may not seem like it, Republicans were definitely correct to run McCain in '08 and Romney in '12 rather than the reverse.

I still think McCain is more conservative than Romney....it's just that Romney ran a more conservative presidential campaign.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2020, 01:52:16 pm »

So both of these guys lost to Obama, but was there any difference between the two on policy?
Or were they basically the same fiscal conservatives with only different names?
Had Romney been the nominee in 08 would he have beat Obama?
McCain in 12?


Had Romney been the nominee in 08 would he have beat Obama?

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No Republican was winning in 2008, no matter what. But I think Romney would've lost by a smaller margin in 2008. I don't think he drops Indiana, nor do I think he would finish a virtual tie in Missouri.

One problem with McCain is that he was more of a foreign-policy whiz, running at a time when the economic collapse was the biggest problem. And Democrats were able to link McCain with George W. Bush, pointing out the way he campaigned for Bush and voted with the President over 90% of the time. Romney wouldn't have had these problems.


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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2020, 10:30:45 pm »

So both of these guys lost to Obama, but was there any difference between the two on policy?
Or were they basically the same fiscal conservatives with only different names?
Had Romney been the nominee in 08 would he have beat Obama?
McCain in 12?


Had Romney been the nominee in 08 would he have beat Obama?

^

No Republican was winning in 2008, no matter what. But I think Romney would've lost by a smaller margin in 2008. I don't think he drops Indiana, nor do I think he would finish a virtual tie in Missouri.

One problem with McCain is that he was more of a foreign-policy whiz, running at a time when the economic collapse was the biggest problem. And Democrats were able to link McCain with George W. Bush, pointing out the way he campaigned for Bush and voted with the President over 90% of the time. Romney wouldn't have had these problems.




Good points, but it would've been easier to tie Romney to Wall Street crooks after the financial crisis. Also McCain had a lot of good will with the electorate that Romney just didn't have.
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