Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Purple State]

I think the easiest way to get rid of zombies is to tighten the number of national-level votes one may miss before being removed from the voter rolls. You could also not allow new members to vote in the first national election following their registration.

This would force people to remain at least remain somewhat interested for two months or more.

[Јas]

Not a bad idea Sen. RowanBrandon. 6 months might be a bit long, but some such time requirement seems reasonable to me.

[Marokai Backbeat]

This needs to be a constitutional amendment, by the way.

[Hash]

I would support the legislation if the time is reduced.

[Хahar 🤔]

1 month?

IMO, it's still too long; I registered very soon after I joined.

[Associate Justice PiT]

1 month?

IMO, it's still too long; I registered very soon after I joined.

    As did I, though I only checked it out because you suggested that I should.

[Franzl]

I'd be willing to accept something like 2 weeks, but even that I'm kind of uncomfortable with.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I'd be willing to accept something like 2 weeks, but even that I'm kind of uncomfortable with.

     It's actually two weeks (or perhaps 15 days, I'm not sure which one) currently.

[Franzl]

I'd be willing to accept something like 2 weeks, but even that I'm kind of uncomfortable with.

     It's actually two weeks (or perhaps 15 days, I'm not sure which one) currently.

In that case....I'm happy with the status quo.

[Marokai Backbeat]

2. Each account must be at least 15 days old before registering to vote.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Twenty_seventh_Amendment_to_the_Second_Constitution

[Хahar 🤔]

2. Each account must be at least 15 days old before registering to vote.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Twenty_seventh_Amendment_to_the_Second_Constitution

That Amendment looks more and more stupid every time I look at it.

[Bacon King]

I love the idea, though I think six months is a bit too long. Two or three? I also like PS's ideas.

[Rowan]

I love the idea, though I think six months is a bit too long. Two or three? I also like PS's ideas.

Yeah six months is probably too long. I'd compromise a shorter amount. I just wanted to get the idea out there.

[Marokai Backbeat]

This needs to be a constitutional amendment, by the way.

[Alexander Hamilton]

2. Each account must be at least 15 days old before registering to vote.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Twenty_seventh_Amendment_to_the_Second_Constitution

That Amendment looks more and more stupid every time I look at it.

Proud to have cast my vote against it

[Marokai Backbeat]

I consider it one of my greatest accomplishments.

[MasterJedi]

Ok, I'm very busy. I got the new bills on and will deal with other things such as votes, etc. tomorrow sometime. Thank you.

[Vepres]

You have done nothing to aid our banking industry. The stock market has been moving downward consistently for a month now. Do something!

[Marokai Backbeat]

God (I mean, Purple State) has been straining my suspension of disbelief for awhile. He either doesn't care about the differences between Atlasia and the United States or he hasn't cared to look up the changes we've made in the past. (Such as repealing Gramm-Leach-Bliley, or implementing the ability for the President to save individual banks when necessary.) And, of course, as Meeker said "We are not as stupid as George Bush."

As such, I'm stepping back on this one and letting his pretend apocalypse play out.

[Ebowed]

Just to get yelled at:

Troubled Asset Relief Program Bill

1. The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is hereby established.
2. $600 billion will be available to failing banks and other corporations vital to the continued function of the Atlasian and global economies, and to be used by the Atlasian government to buy out liquidated assets at an inflated price.
3. $350 billion for this program will be available immediately upon the fulfillment of the drawing up of the next section's guidelines, while the second installment of $250 billion will be available no sooner than a month from the passage of this act and only with Senatorial approval.
4. Guidelines to determine eligibility for TARP will be established by the President, in his role as acting Secretary of the Treasury, and the Secretary of Internal Affairs, after consultation with the Game Moderator.

In theory, the mere introduction of this legislation will cause a temporary spike in the stock market.

[Vepres]

Just to get yelled at:

Troubled Asset Relief Program Bill

1. The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is hereby established.
2. $600 billion will be available to failing banks and other corporations vital to the continued function of the Atlasian and global economies, and to be used by the Atlasian government to buy out liquidated assets at an inflated price.
3. $350 billion for this program will be available immediately upon the fulfillment of the drawing up of the next section's guidelines, while the second installment of $250 billion will be available no sooner than a month from the passage of this act and only with Senatorial approval.
4. Guidelines to determine eligibility for TARP will be established by the President, in his role as acting Secretary of the Treasury, and the Secretary of Internal Affairs, after consultation with the Game Moderator.

In theory, the mere introduction of this legislation will cause a temporary spike in the stock market.

Just introduce it, table it after market hours, then reintroduce it in the morning everyday into infinity. Problem solved

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

God (I mean, Purple State) has been straining my suspension of disbelief for awhile. He either doesn't care about the differences between Atlasia and the United States or he hasn't cared to look up the changes we've made in the past. (Such as repealing Gramm-Leach-Bliley, or implementing the ability for the President to save individual banks when necessary.) And, of course, as Meeker said "We are not as stupid as George Bush."

As such, I'm stepping back on this one and letting his pretend apocalypse play out.

1. The difference started to late and wasn't substantial enough to do what you claim it would

2. Grahm-Leach-Bliley wasn't repealed till late last year, by then the damage was done.

3. Maybe you should accept that there was nothing Bush could have done beyond enforcment of what was on the books which would have barely dented the problems. When he tried to get new laws for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac a coalition of Senators from both parties led by Chris Dodd shot him done. As Paul Volcker recently said on PBS the crisis was largely unpreventable from a practical standpoint because there wasn't the political will to regulate and enforce to the extent that would have been necessary to prevent this, at the appropriate time(2001-2004). Guess what, that key period came before the formation of Atlasia under the soverienty of the US. Meaning we would have inhereited it. Recognition of the problem didn't come till it was too late just like in RL.

4. The laws currently on the books from late 2008 didn't address the whole problem. Many issues weren't even touched and so it will be difficult to claim this has already been dealt with.

Just to get yelled at:

Troubled Asset Relief Program Bill

1. The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is hereby established.
2. $600 billion will be available to failing banks and other corporations vital to the continued function of the Atlasian and global economies, and to be used by the Atlasian government to buy out liquidated assets at an inflated price.
3. $350 billion for this program will be available immediately upon the fulfillment of the drawing up of the next section's guidelines, while the second installment of $250 billion will be available no sooner than a month from the passage of this act and only with Senatorial approval.
4. Guidelines to determine eligibility for TARP will be established by the President, in his role as acting Secretary of the Treasury, and the Secretary of Internal Affairs, after consultation with the Game Moderator.

In theory, the mere introduction of this legislation will cause a temporary spike in the stock market.

Just introduce it, table it after market hours, then reintroduce it in the morning everyday into infinity. Problem solved

I would much prefer something along the lines of a Resolution regime laid out be PAul Volcker in RL. WE currently have a similar setup in place, but it is constructed a little differently.

http://www.financialcrisisupdate.com/2009/09/levitt-volcker-stress-need-for-resolution-authority-for-large-financial-institutions-basel-urges-cross-border-framework.html

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm not pretending we don't have problems, I would just contend they're not as severe as our real-world counterpart. Action needs to be taken, I simply don't know what action to take.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I'm not pretending we don't have problems, I would just contend they're not as severe as our real-world counterpart. Action needs to be taken, I simply don't know what action to take.

The reason the Senate hates dealing with the economy folks.

[Purple State]

I'm not pretending we don't have problems, I would just contend they're not as severe as our real-world counterpart. Action needs to be taken, I simply don't know what action to take.

The reason the Senate hates dealing with the economy folks.

I hate dealing with it too. Go figure.

I'm not pretending we don't have problems, I would just contend they're not as severe as our real-world counterpart. Action needs to be taken, I simply don't know what action to take.

I have consistently asked that those with superior knowledge of economics point out where I make faults. But, of course, simply saying I'm wrong doesn't help. When Yank thought I was wrong, he gave me links and thoughts, etc. which influenced a number of articles and resulted in better info. You are welcome to do the same.

And you are correct that I have not reviewed every piece of legislation the Senate has passed. This is why I requested you point out how the US and Atlasia differ. A simple response goes a long way (and do try to keep it simple because your long posts tend to confuse me ).