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Tony Abbott (Liberal - Australia)
 
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Stephen Harper (Conservative - Canada)
 
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John Key (National - New Zealand)
 
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David Cameron (Conservative - UK)
 
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Indy Texas
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« on: June 14, 2014, 12:37:33 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 12:38:37 PM »

Harper easily, then Abbott and Key.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 01:18:54 PM »

Key no contest
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 02:09:38 PM »

Definitely Harper, then Abbott. Cameron is just okay, and I don't know much about Key.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 03:29:12 PM »


Why not Cameron? Key's probably further right than he is...

Anyway, Abbott, then Harper, then Key, and finally Cameron...
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 03:47:49 PM »

I like 'em all.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 04:46:49 PM »


Why not Cameron? Key's probably further right than he is...

Anyway, Abbott, then Harper, then Key, and finally Cameron...

I don't appreciate Cameron's capitulation to the Europhobes in his party along with being a massive austerity hawk.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 04:50:39 PM »

Key or Cameron.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2014, 05:51:39 PM »

Key hands down.
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2014, 06:41:00 PM »

Key, because I've heard the least sh**t about him.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2014, 07:15:59 PM »

Abbott then Harper then Cameron. I don't know enough about Key to form an opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2014, 07:36:31 PM »

They're all terrible (normal)
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2014, 07:59:36 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2014, 08:57:07 PM »

We're forgetting Ted Cruz I suppose...
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2014, 09:12:44 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2014, 10:08:22 PM »

1. Abbott
2. Harper (although not far off Abbott)
3. Key
4. Cameron
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2014, 05:18:13 AM »

Key, because I've heard the least sh**t about him.
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2014, 05:48:05 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2014, 05:51:47 AM »


Why not Cameron? Key's probably further right than he is...

Anyway, Abbott, then Harper, then Key, and finally Cameron...

I don't appreciate Cameron's capitulation to the Europhobes in his party along with being a massive austerity hawk.

Cameron's not really capitulated to the hard Eurosceptics as such. He himself is a soft Eurosceptic, whilst the idea of having a referendum on our membership of the EU (which is what I assume you meant by his capitulation) is one that commands a reasonably broad degree of support, both inside the Conservative Party and out (the EU is, after all, now a thoroughly different organisation to the EEC which we had a referendum on leaving in 1975). Moreover, he intends to campaign for a no vote, which is something that's guaranteed to monumentally piss off the hardcore Eurosceptics in the parliamentary party, as well as the party in the country.

As for being an 'austerity hawk', I guess that's true to some extent, but I don't neccessarily think that makes him worse (from your perspective) than Key, who was lucky in the sense that he didn't have to deal with a large budget deficit and rapidly rising levels of debt. Key, to me, seems like a very dry right-winger on economics, who only doesn't come across as such partly because the New Zealand economy and public sector have been liberalised to a greater extent (I believe) than in other Anglosphere countries. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get. Cameron, to the extent that he has any strongly held views (after all, one of his slogans was 'change to win'), is probably the least right-wing of these four, in both the economic and social spheres (he actively pushed gay marriage after all, something that Harper actively opposed and Abbott continues to oppose). You could argue that Key's equally as 'liberal' as Cameron on moral questions (his government also pushed gay marriage), but he still seems further to the right on economic matters.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2014, 07:05:50 AM »

Well, climate change and its mitigation is the reason I initially became interested in politics, so I've always had an intense dislike for Harper for his part in scuppering international agreements. I understand why - Canada has huge energy resources and very little to lose from climate change (in fact, with the NW passageway and Arctic greening, CC could bring net benefit to Canada) - but I still find it morally reprehensible to put the poll numbers ahead of your planet.

Same with Abbott, who is certainly worse on paper; but whose damage is mitigated by general incompetence and gaffes. He is a very good campaigner, although his political slogans are dumb even by the low bar set already by electoral mantras (VERB the NOUN!!). He's the only leader on this list at risk of crashing and burning their parties, so there is that.

Cameron and Key are very similar (IMO), but I will say Key, because his government seems more competent. That may be a bias based on my vantage point however.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2014, 09:17:31 AM »

Key is probably the only one who isn't a turd/actively malicious.
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2014, 01:57:16 PM »

Are the Republicans not in the anglosphere?
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2014, 02:02:09 PM »

Are the Republicans not in the anglosphere?

if you can find a republican who displays any sort of leadership, go right ahead.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2014, 02:18:54 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2014, 02:33:47 PM »

Well, climate change and its mitigation is the reason I initially became interested in politics, so I've always had an intense dislike for Harper for his part in scuppering international agreements. I understand why - Canada has huge energy resources and very little to lose from climate change (in fact, with the NW passageway and Arctic greening, CC could bring net benefit to Canada) - but I still find it morally reprehensible to put the poll numbers ahead of your planet.

Same with Abbott, who is certainly worse on paper; but whose damage is mitigated by general incompetence and gaffes. He is a very good campaigner, although his political slogans are dumb even by the low bar set already by electoral mantras (VERB the NOUN!!). He's the only leader on this list at risk of crashing and burning their parties, so there is that.

Cameron and Key are very similar (IMO), but I will say Key, because his government seems more competent. That may be a bias based on my vantage point however.

Indeed, a lot of Canadians are licking their chops at the idea of climate change moderating our harsh winters. Of course, they don't realize it means more snow, and odd circumstances that bring even colder winters, like this winter's polar vortex.

But it's true, Canada will be one of the least effected countries by climate change. It will still be horrible, but not as bad as elsewhere.
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