Reagan vs. Hoover (Who's better?)

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Who was better?

The Reagan hate in the US General inspired this. I'm putting Reagan against a true failure since they will obviously vote Carter if he was the opponent, and Buchanan is too obvious, so Hoover it is.

[Deus Naturae]

Hoover was easily the bigger failure, but I thought it was about which one is better so I voted for Reagan.

[Maxwell]

Reagan was clearly better. Hoover just extended the depression.

[H. Ross Peron]

Reagan was undoubtedly to the left of Hoover, so voted for him

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Reagan was undoubtedly to the left of Hoover, so voted for him

Thats just not true.

[SWE]

Hoover was the worse president, Reagan the worse person

[Maxwell]

Reagan was undoubtedly to the left of Hoover, so voted for him

This is deluge worthy.

[Deus Naturae]

Reagan was undoubtedly to the left of Hoover, so voted for him

LOL

Hoover, the man responsible for unprecedented Federal subsidization and manipulation of agriculture, massive public works spending, radical tax and tariff hikes, and countless interventionist loan programs for banks and businesses, who was then challenged from the right by FDR, was a leftist? Cool story, bro.

[MATTROSE94]

Reagan (Normal).

[Sopranos Republican]

Hoover was the worse president, Reagan the worse person

^^^^^^^

[Marnetmar]

Hoover was the worse president, Reagan the worse person

[ElectionsGuy]

Reagan, not a contest.

[Goldwater]

Reagan (Normal).

[H. Ross Peron]

Reagan was undoubtedly to the left of Hoover, so voted for him

Thats just not true.

Well, free trade hasn't always been considered the conservative position-liberals (not just classical liberals but virtually all the New Deal Democrats from FDR down to LBJ) used to the ones in favour of free trade. Additionally it isn't as if Reagan didn't raise taxes or oppose all government spending on the infrastruture (not to mention other areas) either.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Reagan was undoubtedly to the left of Hoover, so voted for him

Thats just not true.

Well, free trade hasn't always been considered the conservative position-liberals (not just classical liberals but virtually all the New Deal Democrats from FDR down to LBJ) used to the ones in favour of free trade. Additionally it isn't as if Reagan didn't raise taxes or oppose all government spending on the infrastruture (not to mention other areas) either.

It's not about trade. It's about how interventionist Hoover was compared to Reagan.

[Meursault]

Much less, then. Hoover campaigned against the creation of Social Security and the FDIC - both programmes Reagan supported.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Much less, then. Hoover campaigned against the creation of Social Security and the FDIC - both programmes Reagan supported.

The FDIC and Social Security were entrenched by 1980. They didn't even even exist in 1932. As mentioned, FDR ran to the right of Hoovee. A young Ayn Rand even voted for him, a decision she regretted by 1936.

[Meursault]

Hoover opposed them after 1932. Reagan supported them after 1932.

I know that you believe the old Austrian canard that Hoover governed as a proto-New Dealer. The problem, you see, is that it isn't true.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Your making false comparisons. What Hoover thought after 1932 isn't relevant to the debate on whose presidency was more right/left wing.

[Meursault]

You're right.

Hoover rejected the idea of bailing out failing banks. Reagan bailed out the savings and loans industry.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

This is horrible. One of the biggest failures in the history of the oval office is tied with a great man who turned America away from depression.

[SWE]

This is horrible. One of the biggest failures in the history of the oval office is tied with a great man who turned America away from depression.

When did Hoover turn America away from depression?

[Comrade Funk]

Both recessions weren't each others faults, but Reagan handled his A LOT better obviously. Of course, people will just vote on ideological grounds rather than performance.

[TNF]

Both recessions weren't each others faults, but Reagan handled his A LOT better obviously. Of course, people will just vote on ideological grounds rather than performance.

This of course is an ideological statement.

[RogueBeaver]

Reagan (Normal).