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« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2006, 03:40:21 PM »
Strongly Negative
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« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2006, 04:29:49 PM »
I have a strong positive opinion of libertarians. However, I have an equally strong negative opinion of objectivists (i.e., Ayn Rand-type libertarians).
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« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2006, 04:30:43 PM »
Quote from: A18 on January 05, 2006, 11:02:32 PM
You can be a libertarian and a populist.

Pardon my ignorance, but how?

I mean in a very general sense, libertarian means wanting less government, populism means wanting more government.
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« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2006, 04:35:04 PM »
Quote from: Milk'n'Cereal on January 06, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how?

I mean in a very general sense, libertarian means wanting less government, populism means wanting more government.
No, populism involves supporting "common people" against "elites." Someone could be a libertarian, but still the "common people."

The opposite of libertarianism is statism, not populism.
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« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2006, 04:36:56 PM »
Posing the individual against "big government" is a form of populism.
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« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2006, 04:37:27 PM »
I have a good opinion of moderate libertarians, moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans. I'm a creature of the political centre,
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« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2006, 04:39:34 PM »
Negative

I'd easily choose Republican rule over Libertarian rule.
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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2006, 05:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Emsworth on January 06, 2006, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milk'n'Cereal on January 06, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how?

I mean in a very general sense, libertarian means wanting less government, populism means wanting more government.
No, populism involves supporting "common people" against "elites." Someone could be a libertarian, but still the "common people."

The opposite of libertarianism is statism, not populism.

I agree, but on this forum, populism has become the accepted opposite.
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« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2006, 05:49:59 PM »
Horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible people.
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« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2006, 05:54:28 PM »
Quote from: ilikeverin on January 06, 2006, 05:49:59 PM
Horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible people.

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« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2006, 05:59:36 PM »

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked ADMIT IT!  YOU WANT TO KILL ALL THE POORS AND RAPE THEIR CORPSES!  ALL THE WHILE EXPLOITING THE PROLETARIAT!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2006, 06:22:22 PM »
Quote from: Atty. Gen. Brandon H on January 06, 2006, 05:46:13 PM
Quote from: Emsworth on January 06, 2006, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: Milk'n'Cereal on January 06, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how?

I mean in a very general sense, libertarian means wanting less government, populism means wanting more government.
No, populism involves supporting "common people" against "elites." Someone could be a libertarian, but still the "common people."

The opposite of libertarianism is statism, not populism.

I agree, but on this forum, populism has become the accepted opposite.

But the question is, why?

On this forum there are some very reasonable Libertarians. On most forums, I have to admit they are mostly human trash, however.
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« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2006, 07:34:41 PM »
I have positive view, mostly because I know a lot of libertarians personally and find them to be nice people. I don't like self-styled libertarians who are really conservatives minus the moralism. Libertarianism is essentially a liberal philosophy, a variety of classic liberalism. But many American libertarians are really conservatives. I probably dislike these more than actual conservatives.
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« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2006, 07:37:43 PM »
Quote from: Gustaf on January 06, 2006, 07:34:41 PM
But many American libertarians are really conservatives.

No, that's all in your head.
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« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2006, 07:51:53 PM »
I'm a small L libertarian- I'm an independant; my Libertarian avatar is due to ideological similarity. I don't like the Libertarian Party itself- it generally emphasises the wrong issues, doesn't have a very good foreign policy, is generally impotent in national politics, and comes of as a tad too extremist for my tastes.

For Libertarians as a whole, however, I have a very positive opinion. Granted, there are a few crazies, but most are a tad more sensible and I agree with them on most issues.
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« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2006, 09:12:31 PM »
Neutral.  They are essentially the flip side of the coin of communists.  They are highly misguided.
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« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2006, 09:46:45 PM »
libertarian ideology: very high
the Libertarian Party of the United States: low
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« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2006, 09:54:23 PM »
Quote from: ilikeverin on January 06, 2006, 05:49:59 PM
Horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible people.

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« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2006, 09:55:32 PM »

The truth hurts
But lies kill
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« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2006, 10:04:12 PM »
Quote from: Lt. Gov. Bacon King on January 06, 2006, 07:51:53 PM
I'm a small L libertarian- I'm an independant; my Libertarian avatar is due to ideological similarity. I don't like the Libertarian Party itself- it generally emphasises the wrong issues, doesn't have a very good foreign policy, is generally impotent in national politics, and comes of as a tad too extremist for my tastes.

For Libertarians as a whole, however, I have a very positive opinion. Granted, there are a few crazies, but most are a tad more sensible and I agree with them on most issues.

Bacon King - JOIN THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY. We won't get anywhere unless we get enough moderate libertarians in the party to change it to where it could get elected.
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« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2006, 09:02:50 AM »
Quote from: SE Magistrate John Dibble on January 06, 2006, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: Lt. Gov. Bacon King on January 06, 2006, 07:51:53 PM
I'm a small L libertarian- I'm an independant; my Libertarian avatar is due to ideological similarity. I don't like the Libertarian Party itself- it generally emphasises the wrong issues, doesn't have a very good foreign policy, is generally impotent in national politics, and comes of as a tad too extremist for my tastes.

For Libertarians as a whole, however, I have a very positive opinion. Granted, there are a few crazies, but most are a tad more sensible and I agree with them on most issues.

Bacon King - JOIN THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY. We won't get anywhere unless we get enough moderate libertarians in the party to change it to where it could get elected.

You know, that makes perfect sense. I think I shall. Smiley
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« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2006, 09:40:27 AM »
Quote from: Lt. Gov. Bacon King on January 07, 2006, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: SE Magistrate John Dibble on January 06, 2006, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: Lt. Gov. Bacon King on January 06, 2006, 07:51:53 PM
I'm a small L libertarian- I'm an independant; my Libertarian avatar is due to ideological similarity. I don't like the Libertarian Party itself- it generally emphasises the wrong issues, doesn't have a very good foreign policy, is generally impotent in national politics, and comes of as a tad too extremist for my tastes.

For Libertarians as a whole, however, I have a very positive opinion. Granted, there are a few crazies, but most are a tad more sensible and I agree with them on most issues.

Bacon King - JOIN THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY. We won't get anywhere unless we get enough moderate libertarians in the party to change it to where it could get elected.

You know, that makes perfect sense. I think I shall. Smiley

That's what I hope to do Smiley  Even though I'm pretty extreme as a libertarian, I'm going to endorse the more moderate Libertarians, so that we might be able to actually win some stuff for a change Cheesy
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« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2006, 09:44:07 AM »

Actually, it's not the truth or a lie, it is an objective opinion, one I hope to change for ilikeverin Smiley  But, you take neither ILV nor myself seriously, so what do you care?
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« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2006, 06:58:10 PM »
Quote from: A18 on January 06, 2006, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: Gustaf on January 06, 2006, 07:34:41 PM
But many American libertarians are really conservatives.

No, that's all in your head.

I don't think so, but feel free to convince me.
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« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2006, 10:59:30 PM »
Well, positive, I'd hope. Tongue Smiley
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