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« Reply #575 on: June 07, 2014, 01:35:41 PM »

That's terrible news for Ed Miliband.
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« Reply #576 on: June 07, 2014, 01:46:59 PM »

What?
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« Reply #577 on: June 07, 2014, 01:49:04 PM »

The Feminist Initiative joins the Social Democrat group. Quite surprising for me; I thought they were more radical and would join Greens or GUE-NGL.


Their arguments are pragmatic: "Its a bigger group with more power and they have offered us both the positions and resources we wanted".

Looks like they have just been offered a better deal.
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« Reply #578 on: June 07, 2014, 02:09:25 PM »

I am also very surprised by FI's decision. I assume many of its voters are too.
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« Reply #579 on: June 07, 2014, 04:31:23 PM »

Results of the European parliament elections in Bulgaria by province and municipality:





BBT is short for "Bulgaria without Censorship", a new populist party led by a former journalist. ABV stands for Alternative for a Bulgarian Revival, a breakaway faction from BSP, led by former president Georgi Parvanov.
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« Reply #580 on: June 07, 2014, 11:24:43 PM »

Renzi is supposedly pushing for a a female Commission president and the favorite seems to be Dalia Grybauskaite, President of Lithuania.
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« Reply #581 on: June 08, 2014, 06:35:52 AM »

Renzi is supposedly pushing for a a female Commission president and the favorite seems to be Dalia Grybauskaite, President of Lithuania.

I have heard different things: Helle T/S (Denmark)

Really, all this backroom talk is nuts - bring on the direct popular vote for President and transform the Commission into some kind of Senate that we are directly electing as well.
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« Reply #582 on: June 08, 2014, 06:57:36 AM »

Renzi is supposedly pushing for a a female Commission president and the favorite seems to be Dalia Grybauskaite, President of Lithuania.

I have heard different things: Helle T/S (Denmark)

Really, all this backroom talk is nuts - bring on the direct popular vote for President and transform the Commission into some kind of Senate that we are directly electing as well.

Source?

 
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« Reply #583 on: June 08, 2014, 07:04:50 AM »

Renzi is supposedly pushing for a a female Commission president and the favorite seems to be Dalia Grybauskaite, President of Lithuania.

I have heard different things: Helle T/S (Denmark)

Really, all this backroom talk is nuts - bring on the direct popular vote for President and transform the Commission into some kind of Senate that we are directly electing as well.

Source?

 

I was reading it in a local newspaper.

This is one English source I could find:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10882531/Jean-Claude-Juncker-to-withdraw-bid-to-lead-European-Commission-sources-say.html
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« Reply #584 on: June 08, 2014, 07:10:16 AM »

Really, all this backroom talk is nuts - bring on the direct popular vote for President and transform the Commission into some kind of Senate that we are directly electing as well.

You seem to be under the illusion that the Union is some sort of democratic project. Backroom talk is the foundation on which its existence stands on. The Parliament is only there to give some sort democratic credentials and not actually wield any real power, and considering what sorts of results we get in those elections, it's not something that anyone sane actually wants to change. Commissioner Le Pen, that'd be one for the history books.

Also, the commission is the executive branch of the EU, so it would be strange to make that the Senate. Council of Minister would be the the more obvious parallel I think. 
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« Reply #585 on: June 08, 2014, 08:11:48 AM »

Renzi is supposedly pushing for a a female Commission president and the favorite seems to be Dalia Grybauskaite, President of Lithuania.

"A martial arts expert with a black belt in karate, who has said her political heroes include Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill".

Just what the EU needs.
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« Reply #586 on: June 08, 2014, 05:02:25 PM »

The German pirate MEP joins Greens/EFA

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« Reply #587 on: June 09, 2014, 09:22:13 AM »
« Edited: June 09, 2014, 09:24:08 AM by Abdul the Red »

PiS now claims they, in fact, had "won" the election, because of "irregularities".

Reminds me of what happen after Kaczyński's defeat in 2010. First, they nicely conceded, then started screaming bloody murder about "lack of legitimacy" and purged the "moderate" faction, for causing party the harm during the campaign (while, in fact, because of taking a "moderate" image, Kaczyński was so competitive).
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« Reply #588 on: June 09, 2014, 04:16:19 PM »

More on the formation of groups in the EP: http://europedecides.eu/2014/06/whos-going-where-tracking-the-musical-chairs-in-the-european-parliament/

Deadline is June 24.
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« Reply #589 on: June 10, 2014, 06:15:13 AM »

If Juncker does not become President of the Commission, that's going to be a disaster. Obviously, he was not my candidate when I casted my ballot, but if you first tell the electorate they will have a saying in electing President, and then you're starting to screw with it, it's pretty much destroys what remains of dream about Democratic EU.
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« Reply #590 on: June 10, 2014, 06:24:03 AM »

If Juncker does not become President of the Commission, that's going to be a disaster. Obviously, he was not my candidate when I casted my ballot, but if you first tell the electorate they will have a saying in electing President, and then you're starting to screw with it, it's pretty much destroys what remains of dream about Democratic EU.

Well, in fairness, it's not like Europeans seemed to care about the choice either. Considering how little publicity it has drawn, most probably didn't even know they were supposed to choose the commission's president.
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« Reply #591 on: June 10, 2014, 07:12:25 AM »

The Portuguese Earth Party MPT is joining the ALDE group. I would've guessed Greens or EPP as they are described as Green conservatist or agrarian. But there has been rumours that the Latvian Union of Farmers and Greens could end up in ALDE as well so I guess they have been able to present these parties a good package. ALDE is of course generally greener than the EPP, so I guess it's not that weird.
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« Reply #592 on: June 10, 2014, 08:04:10 AM »

If Juncker does not become President of the Commission, that's going to be a disaster. Obviously, he was not my candidate when I casted my ballot, but if you first tell the electorate they will have a saying in electing President, and then you're starting to screw with it, it's pretty much destroys what remains of dream about Democratic EU.

Well, in fairness, it's not like Europeans seemed to care about the choice either. Considering how little publicity it has drawn, most probably didn't even know they were supposed to choose the commission's president.

That is true, of course. However, at first the election was suppoused to determine President among candidates nominated by parties, which makes stuff currently going on disguisting.
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« Reply #593 on: June 10, 2014, 08:23:25 AM »

It's still a great swindle. I remember a debate where Martin Schultz assured that any person picked to be president of the EC who wasn't among the 5 candidates discussing there would be rejected by the EP. The others, including Juncker, agreed. Does he keep his word or lack honour?
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« Reply #594 on: June 10, 2014, 09:46:11 AM »

The EAF has managed to form a group and will hold a press conference next week according to the general secretary of the EAF. I guess the most likely last two members are TT(Order and Justice) from Lithuania and Mikke's KNP(Congress of the New Right) from Poland. It also seems that Wilders will take up his seat in the EP, but he has complained against the ban on dual mandates to the European Court of Justice, so I guess it's only until the ban is upheld. I guess he would prefer a seat in the Dutch parliament then.
Of course, all of this also means that there is almost zero chance left for UKIP to keep the EFD group alive.
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« Reply #595 on: June 10, 2014, 10:00:47 AM »

The EAF has managed to form a group and will hold a press conference next week according to the general secretary of the EAF. I guess the most likely last two members are TT(Order and Justice) from Lithuania and Mikke's KNP(Congress of the New Right) from Poland. It also seems that Wilders will take up his seat in the EP, but he has complained against the ban on dual mandates to the European Court of Justice, so I guess it's only until the ban is upheld. I guess he would prefer a seat in the Dutch parliament then.
Of course, all of this also means that there is almost zero chance left for UKIP to keep the EFD group alive.

Let's see how long it holds ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10889323/Europes-far-Right-in-crisis-as-Geert-Wilder-expresses-disgust-at-Jean-Marie-Le-Pen-comments.html

Strache (FPÖ) today has strongly criticized the senile LePen's comments as well ...
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« Reply #596 on: June 10, 2014, 01:52:10 PM »

If you ask the typical European voter whether they gave their party leader a mandate to be head of government at the last general election, they'll agree. If you ask them whether they gave Jean-Claude Juncker a mandate by voting for the EPP (or even their friends in the Parliament who are backing him), they will not agree. Democratic legitimacy comes from the consent of the governed, which is not really present or absent in Juncker's case because EU democracy is still mainly about big fragmented coalitions.
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« Reply #597 on: June 10, 2014, 02:18:37 PM »

The EAF has managed to form a group and will hold a press conference next week according to the general secretary of the EAF. I guess the most likely last two members are TT(Order and Justice) from Lithuania and Mikke's KNP(Congress of the New Right) from Poland. It also seems that Wilders will take up his seat in the EP, but he has complained against the ban on dual mandates to the European Court of Justice, so I guess it's only until the ban is upheld. I guess he would prefer a seat in the Dutch parliament then.
Of course, all of this also means that there is almost zero chance left for UKIP to keep the EFD group alive.

Let's see how long it holds ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10889323/Europes-far-Right-in-crisis-as-Geert-Wilder-expresses-disgust-at-Jean-Marie-Le-Pen-comments.html

Strache (FPÖ) today has strongly criticized the senile LePen's comments as well ...

Perhaps its time for MLP to take out a contract on her father Tongue
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« Reply #598 on: June 10, 2014, 02:39:04 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2014, 02:47:52 PM by Petro Poroshenko has binders full of chocolate »

The Family Party joining ECR and the ÖDP joining Greens-EFA is kind of interesting because both parties used to cooperate in elections (having a no-competition agreement and running with joint candidate lists) and at one point even considered a merger.

Then again, the ÖDP once ran with the Animal Protection Party on a joint ticket in the 2006 Saxony-Anhalt state election and Animal Protection now belongs to GUE-NGL.
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« Reply #599 on: June 11, 2014, 12:04:24 PM »

Grillo has applied to join the Greens (something I predicted awhile ago)
http://euobserver.com/tickers/124489

I'm not sure they'd have him, there are two or three pirates though

The Greens have indeed rejected the application:
http://euobserver.com/eu-elections/124495

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not to mention that they'd e by far the largest party in the group, with over a quarter of the total green seats, you think Danny Cohn-Bendit and the rest of the french and german greens are going to allow that?
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