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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 08:52:25 PM »

Committed the greatest moral and geopolitical travesty of the past half-century, chiefly amongst many, many failings. HP.

What are you talking about? Indonesia?

I swear this post was something about Rwanda. Did you edit it?
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 09:19:57 PM »

One lf my favorite President's though he would have been more succesful being President in 1988...it suits him better...
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 09:30:11 PM »

Committed the greatest moral and geopolitical travesty of the past half-century, chiefly amongst many, many failings. HP.

What are you talking about? Indonesia?

I swear this post was something about Rwanda. Did you edit it?

Yeah, I decided to make a guess I know was wrong (since I know the Shah is your mancrush)
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2014, 09:41:11 PM »

Overall FF, though he was not that effective as President.
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 09:59:45 PM »

Inflation started becoming a problem in the final years of Nixon's presidency. You've never heard of the "Whip Inflation Now" buttons Gerald Ford used to pass out?

They did whip inflation. It was under 5% at the end of 1976. It jumped above 5% in January 1977, and it cleared 14% by early 1980. To be fair, there was an oil crisis, but inflation was still out of control.
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2014, 10:37:31 PM »

ff for restoring honor to the presidency and being one of the unluckiest presidents in history

Inflation started becoming a problem in the final years of Nixon's presidency. You've never heard of the "Whip Inflation Now" buttons Gerald Ford used to pass out?

They did whip inflation. It was under 5% at the end of 1976. It jumped above 5% in January 1977, and it cleared 14% by early 1980. To be fair, there was an oil crisis, but inflation was still out of control.

lol

so i guess obame was responsible for the 750,000 jobs that were lost in january 2009 and the recession

or hoover was responsible for black tuesday

it's because of carter that the inflation wasn't around to hurt reagan and he basically sacrificed his second term for it
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2014, 10:40:57 PM »

Can't stand him
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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2014, 10:51:15 PM »

First and foremost, he saw with clear eyes the looming disaster that is our fossil fuel addiction, and tried to steer us on a better path. 

The deregulations that came after him have gone too far, but I think we can all agree that saving freight railroads as a going concern, and allowing drinkable beer to be made within our borders for the first time since Prohibition, were both tremendous boons to our nation's welfare.

One of the very few genuinely good and honest people to hold the office- so much so that he's become almost a cautionary tale about how maybe the tiniest dash of Machiavelli isn't the worst thing ever.

And, what Mordecai said about inflation above.

Obvious FF; my pick for best post-FDR president.
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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2014, 11:16:40 PM »

it's because of carter that the inflation wasn't around to hurt reagan and he basically sacrificed his second term for it

Everyone knows Carter began the long process of fixing stagflation. Everyone knows he was about 2 years late to make the necessary policy changes.

He didn't sacrifice his second term. He lost it by acting to timidly and slowly in '78 and '79
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2014, 12:32:12 AM »

Awful President.
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2014, 12:56:31 AM »


Gore lost, deal with it.
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2014, 04:47:10 AM »

it's because of carter that the inflation wasn't around to hurt reagan and he basically sacrificed his second term for it

Everyone knows Carter began the long process of fixing stagflation. Everyone knows he was about 2 years late to make the necessary policy changes.

He didn't sacrifice his second term. He lost it by acting to timidly and slowly in '78 and '79

he did the right thing in the end though. everybody else kicked the can down the road until it blew up with him
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2014, 06:07:44 AM »

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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2014, 08:42:14 AM »

Neutral.  FF as a person, but an HP as president.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2014, 08:56:43 AM »

One of the most intelligent and morally sound men ever to occupy the office.

I always considered him somewhat underrated, given certain notable accomplishments. Remember Carter was laboring under a curse. Pretty much every President serving in the 1977-1981 period would be more or less screwed due to prevailing circumstances. Of course, due to Jimmy's major shortcomings, such as a tendency to being preoccupied with details or stubborn hostility to the Congress, I wish someone else would be President at that time.

Not a failure, but not higher than average.

Lean FF as President. Huge FF as former President.
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2014, 09:15:33 AM »

A disaster.  HP
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2014, 11:51:41 AM »

One good thing is that he pardoned Bill Clinton. (Clinton was a draft dodger)
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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2014, 12:01:21 PM »

One good thing is that he pardoned Bill Clinton. (Clinton was a draft dodger)

That's a good thing!? Without that, we would've avoided the utter moral disgrace that this country was in the '90's.
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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2014, 12:55:17 PM »

Just awful.
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2014, 01:02:29 PM »

Good person, bad president
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« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2014, 03:34:12 PM »

A terrible President who seems to have become embittered by his loss. HP.
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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2014, 05:27:20 PM »

Committed the greatest moral and geopolitical travesty of the past half-century, chiefly amongst many, many failings. HP.

You should watch this ABC News clip from December 1979:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9COJXrrHHQ

Living through the 1979-80 era would have been absolutely insane. Can you imagine if this forum existed back then, simultaneously juggling discussion on the hostage crisis, stagflation, Thatcherism, Iraq-Iran, USSR-Afghanistan, Vietnam-Cambodia, Northern Ireland, Olympic boycott, the 1980 campaign, and Update?
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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2014, 07:59:06 PM »

Committed the greatest moral and geopolitical travesty of the past half-century, chiefly amongst many, many failings. HP.

You should watch this ABC News clip from December 1979:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9COJXrrHHQ

Living through the 1979-80 era would have been absolutely insane. Can you imagine if this forum existed back then, simultaneously juggling discussion on the hostage crisis, stagflation, Thatcherism, Iraq-Iran, USSR-Afghanistan, Vietnam-Cambodia, Northern Ireland, Olympic boycott, the 1980 campaign, and Update?
Can you imagine Snowstalker in 1979??
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« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2014, 01:39:29 AM »

That approval rating is too high, especially for a failure.

I hope most people are voting on who he is as a person rather than president.

Reagan's next. He's probably going to be in the 40s or 30s.
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« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2014, 06:08:55 AM »






And obviously, Jimmy Carter is the epitome of FF. The man was and is decent, and no one facing the combination of circumstances he did at the time would have been a two-termer, nor has been in the past 100 years.

As a side-note: the Young Democrats of Georgia convention next month is in Columbus; the final day is a morning trip down to Plains to see ol' Jimmy teach Sunday school.
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