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« on: March 15, 2014, 07:35:46 PM »

Gun control supporters turn to new front: Corporate America

By Ben Goad
March 15, 2014, 05:12 pm


The American gun control movement is going corporate.

Still reeling from the stinging legislative defeats of 2013, proponents of tougher firearm regulations are increasingly turning their focus to private sector campaigns.

Gun control groups have claimed victories in recent months, successfully pushing Starbucks to declare guns unwelcome in stores and persuading Facebook to crack down on unregulated firearm solicitations.

With no end in sight to the congressional gridlock that has thwarted more stringent federal gun laws, groups say they will continue to apply pressure on major companies.

“Congress locked the door, so moms are going through the window,” said Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action.

The gun control organization, modeled on Mothers Against Drunk Driving, has made the corporate push a third prong of its strategy, along with campaigns to influence state and federal policies, Watts said.
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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/200896-gun-control-activists-open-new-front-corporate-america#ixzz2w56jSONb
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 07:50:24 PM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 07:54:59 PM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"

The irony being that most gun owning members of the "proletariat" would much prefer a right wing revolution.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 08:15:20 PM »

Which of our True Leftists advocate against gun control?

Anyway, this is a positive development. I'd much rather our legislature was tidied up to enact common sense reforms, though. "Mom" movements tend to become more and more unreasonable as they gain steam (see the modern day crazy of MADD)
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 08:17:21 PM »

Which of our True Leftists advocate against gun control?

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 09:47:53 PM »

Is this really a good direction for gun control proponents to go down? They are already seen as urban elites who don't understand rural life, and now they're going to bring Big Business in as well?

Maybe it might help, but the gun-control side have never exactly had a financial disadvantage before (with Mike Bloomberg) and it's never really helped. :/

(Not concern trolling)
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 09:55:07 PM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"

The irony being that most gun owning members of the "proletariat" would much prefer a right wing revolution.

Get back to me on that when you actually meet one, would you?
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 10:05:01 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2014, 10:22:43 PM »

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Marx probably didn't anticipate that certain sectors of the proletariat would be using rifles and muskets on schoolchildren, theatergoers and black teenagers who have the nerve to listen to music and eat Skittles in public.
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2014, 10:24:52 PM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"

The irony being that most gun owning members of the "proletariat" would much prefer a right wing revolution.

Get back to me on that when you actually meet one, would you?

Are you really suggesting that more leftists own guns than right wingers?
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2014, 10:36:29 PM »

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Oh, great, the failed ideology of communism. It never worked, and will never, since the human is a fundamentaly egoist creature. Whomever in power under communism will suffer hubris, causing an USSR-style redux.

The alternative to capitalism hasn't been invented, yet (or was invented, but needs adaptation to a larger scale).
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2014, 11:45:28 PM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"

The irony being that most gun owning members of the "proletariat" would much prefer a right wing revolution.

Get back to me on that when you actually meet one, would you?

Are you really suggesting that more leftists own guns than right wingers?

...No. I'm suggesting that, as usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2014, 11:58:46 PM »

Is this really a good direction for gun control proponents to go down? They are already seen as urban elites who don't understand rural life, and now they're going to bring Big Business in as well?

Maybe it might help, but the gun-control side have never exactly had a financial disadvantage before (with Mike Bloomberg) and it's never really helped. :/

(Not concern trolling)

Yeah, this isn't going to end well.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 12:10:45 AM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"

The irony being that most gun owning members of the "proletariat" would much prefer a right wing revolution.

Get back to me on that when you actually meet one, would you?

Are you really suggesting that more leftists own guns than right wingers?

...No. I'm suggesting that, as usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh, right. With some proper persuasion, those legions of gun toting right wingers will change their desire for revolution from: "throw that Kenyan Muslim out of the White House!" to "workers of the world unite!"



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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 12:39:27 AM »

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Marx probably didn't anticipate that certain sectors of the proletariat would be using rifles and muskets on schoolchildren, theatergoers and black teenagers who have the nerve to listen to music and eat Skittles in public.
Because when Marx was alive everything was just dandy and there were no crazy people.

Well, those crazy people were enlisted in the Army and usually died, because they were taking too much risks on the battlefield.
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2014, 12:50:14 AM »

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Marx probably didn't anticipate that certain sectors of the proletariat would be using rifles and muskets on schoolchildren, theatergoers and black teenagers who have the nerve to listen to music and eat Skittles in public.
Because when Marx was alive everything was just dandy and there were no crazy people.

Well, those crazy people were enlisted in the Army and usually died, because they were taking too much risks on the battlefield.

So you're saying that to reduce gun violence we need more wars? Wink
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2014, 12:55:36 AM »

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Marx probably didn't anticipate that certain sectors of the proletariat would be using rifles and muskets on schoolchildren, theatergoers and black teenagers who have the nerve to listen to music and eat Skittles in public.
Because when Marx was alive everything was just dandy and there were no crazy people.

Well, those crazy people were enlisted in the Army and usually died, because they were taking too much risks on the battlefield.

So you're saying that to reduce gun violence we need more wars? Wink

Ironically, it would work. Violent people tended to join the army, where they could shoot on people legally and be paid for it and since they were taking more risks, they usually died. It was a powerful social filter.

But, if I have to choose between current gun violence and yesterday wars, I'll take today gun violence. Less innocent fatalities.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2014, 01:15:37 AM »

This is an interesting strategy and one that may be mildly successful. Take for instance my dad, who is both a salesman/businessman and an NRA member/gun owner; if you'd ask him he'd be really turned off by the thought of anyone carrying a gun in his office complex and would support making something like that illegal. At the same time, there's absolutely no way he'd ever support something like an assault weapons ban or banning concealed carry overall.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 02:43:37 AM »

This is an interesting strategy and one that may be mildly successful. Take for instance my dad, who is both a salesman/businessman and an NRA member/gun owner; if you'd ask him he'd be really turned off by the thought of anyone carrying a gun in his office complex and would support making something like that illegal. At the same time, there's absolutely no way he'd ever support something like an assault weapons ban or banning concealed carry overall.

So he has no problem with his boss telling him he can't bring a loaded weapon to work but he's bothered by Congress telling him he can't bring a loaded weapon to work?
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2014, 03:47:09 AM »

good luck because you'll need it
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2014, 11:04:59 AM »

inb4 true leftist "disarming the proletariat"

The irony being that most gun owning members of the "proletariat" would much prefer a right wing revolution.

Get back to me on that when you actually meet one, would you?

Are you really suggesting that more leftists own guns than right wingers?

...No. I'm suggesting that, as usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh, right. With some proper persuasion, those legions of gun toting right wingers will change their desire for revolution from: "throw that Kenyan Muslim out of the White House!" to "workers of the world unite!"





You're really a few lightbulbs short of a well lit room. I was suggesting that maybe you'd have a better perspective concerning what the working class American wants if you actually came into contact with one. Judging from the amount of resentment you have toward them (a mainstay of most liberals), you've never come into contact with one or if you have were immediately put off by their lack of support for the charlatan in the White House or his designated successor, Frank Underwood in a Dress.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2014, 11:39:48 AM »

You're really a few lightbulbs short of a well lit room. I was suggesting that maybe you'd have a better perspective concerning what the working class American wants if you actually came into contact with one. Judging from the amount of resentment you have toward them (a mainstay of most liberals), you've never come into contact with one or if you have were immediately put off by their lack of support for the charlatan in the White House or his designated successor, Frank Underwood in a Dress.

You're still living in the 20th century (not that this is a surprise) if you think white working class right wingers would vote en masse for ANY Democrat. But come to think of it, who was the last Democrat they DID vote for? I'm pretty sure it starts with a "Bill" and ends with a "Clinton", hardly anyone's idea of a socialist revolutionary.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2014, 12:17:35 PM »

Which of our True Leftists advocate against gun control?

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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2014, 01:56:25 PM »

Gen control advocates have already won sweeping victories by shutting down lead smelting to put pressure on recycled lead prices in the ammunition industry. Green bullets are not far behind.

Ammunition is already $.50 per round. Difficult to have shooting seminars and NRA retreats when modern day semi-automatic weaponry can rip through $1,000 of ammunition in a half day of casual shooting.

This corporate strategy is just meaningless political nonsense--a scalp to show off to the public.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2014, 04:04:00 PM »

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Yeah, like capitalism will fall.
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