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« on: March 07, 2014, 06:47:11 PM »

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4855191?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

Maps show relative poverty rates, minimum wage laws, economic mobility, access to health care, cost of health care, obesity and smoking rates, teen pregnancy, and overall happiness.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 06:56:14 PM »

Wrong title. Should be "Facts hate the South (with maps)".
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 07:16:08 PM »

Wrong title. Should be "Facts hate the South (with maps)".
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 07:27:46 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 07:30:16 PM »

A very engrossing read.  Now here's a question, besides constantly talking about it, what are people actually doing about it?  Cos from my perspective and many other people down here, it looks like all people are doing is pointing and laughing at the proverbial fat retarded kid.

And no, lobbing a few billion dollars in foodstamps isn't going to solve the problem.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 07:39:51 PM »

ITT: white liberal elitism
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 07:41:28 PM »

Now here's a question, besides constantly talking about it, what are people actually doing about it?  

Not voting Republican
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 07:44:01 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2014, 07:51:22 PM by Tik, turn off your phone »

The South doesn't seem to want anyone's help. When you insinuate that things are in bad shape you're being a pretentious liberal. They question your motivations and think you're trying to change their culture or religiosity.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 07:49:39 PM »

Now here's a question, besides constantly talking about it, what are people actually doing about it?  

Not voting Republican

Neither major party is an ally of the working class.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 07:55:47 PM »

Now here's a question, besides constantly talking about it, what are people actually doing about it?  

Not voting Republican

Neither major party is an ally of the working class.

Agreed. Just look at all those Democratic politicians pushing "right to work" laws, opposing minimum wage increases, and trying to abolish Social Security and Medicare.

Oh, wait.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 08:13:32 PM »

Happiness is all that matters. The South is unhappy because Obama is in the White House and the ACA is applying pressure to their otherwise cheap insurance industries (except Texas, which is a bit pricey).

HuffPo can't resist the opportunity to besmirch the anti-liberal electorate.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2014, 08:15:11 PM »

Happiness is all that matters. The South is unhappy because Obama is in the White House and the ACA is applying pressure to their otherwise cheap insurance industries (except Texas, which is a bit pricey).


Oh my god this is my new favorite post ever.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 09:29:13 PM »

The South is unhappy because Obama is in the White House

Well, we already knew that - Obama is a black, you see.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2014, 09:52:43 PM »

The South is unhappy because Obama is in the White House

Well, we already knew that - Obama is a black, you see.

Tell me more.
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2014, 10:24:15 PM »


False. The issue in the Southeast is the elitism of the "old money" cotton and textile magnates. It's not like they went away in 1865 or even 1965. Don't get me wrong they are fading in the wake of the "New South" but not so much in states like Alabama and South Carolina (for now).

 
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2014, 12:20:25 AM »

The South hates The South.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2014, 05:04:35 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2014, 08:43:59 AM »


Upstate NY is rather strange place with a lot of "different" people. Spread throughout the various rural communities you can find 60's hippies and Nazis not far from each other.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2014, 10:50:39 AM »


Also, I wish there were more county maps.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2014, 12:19:27 PM »


ITT: factual maps based on empirical data = elitism
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2014, 02:49:54 PM »

Of course the healthiest, happiest parts of the nation seem to be the whitest parts:  The Upper Midwest and New England.

These areas are where close community ties and economic security are strongest.  The difference between the neighborhood in Bismarck, North Dakota and the neighborhood in Jackson, Mississippi is that the North Dakotans have much less poverty.  When you greatly reduce the number of impoverished, the inequality of the non-impoverished becomes less apparent as well.

This "sameness" that allows you to relate to your neighbors both culturally and economically also fosters more altruism and neighborly help.

Sure, there are still wealthy people around... but they don't look as wealthy by comparison.  Instead you might have a neighborhood where most homes are 3 bedrooms but the rich guys live on the lake in a 5 bedroom house and THEY HAVE A WATER TRAMPOLINE!!!.  And you know this because your son is best friends with his son.

I think int he impoverished areas there's this sense of competition and stratification where communities congeal much more along non-economic lines which ultimately reduces upward mobility.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 03:08:50 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2014, 03:10:32 PM »

Of course the healthiest, happiest parts of the nation seem to be the whitest parts:  The Upper Midwest and New England.

These areas are where close community ties and economic security are strongest.  The difference between the neighborhood in Bismarck, North Dakota and the neighborhood in Jackson, Mississippi is that the North Dakotans have much less poverty.  When you greatly reduce the number of impoverished, the inequality of the non-impoverished becomes less apparent as well.

This "sameness" that allows you to relate to your neighbors both culturally and economically also fosters more altruism and neighborly help.

Sure, there are still wealthy people around... but they don't look as wealthy by comparison.  Instead you might have a neighborhood where most homes are 3 bedrooms but the rich guys live on the lake in a 5 bedroom house and THEY HAVE A WATER TRAMPOLINE!!!.  And you know this because your son is best friends with his son.

I think int he impoverished areas there's this sense of competition and stratification where communities congeal much more along non-economic lines which ultimately reduces upward mobility.

History is important in this regard too. The Southern United States' entire social system was based on a small number of incredibly wealthy people controlling the impoverished masses through the economic systems of slavery and tenant farming. That legacy is important even today.  
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2014, 04:02:35 PM »

Last time I checked, California's poverty rate is 23.8%, not what HuffPo's range has it in...
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2014, 04:06:57 PM »

Of course the healthiest, happiest parts of the nation seem to be the whitest parts:  The Upper Midwest and New England.

These areas are where close community ties and economic security are strongest.  The difference between the neighborhood in Bismarck, North Dakota and the neighborhood in Jackson, Mississippi is that the North Dakotans have much less poverty.  When you greatly reduce the number of impoverished, the inequality of the non-impoverished becomes less apparent as well.

This "sameness" that allows you to relate to your neighbors both culturally and economically also fosters more altruism and neighborly help.

Sure, there are still wealthy people around... but they don't look as wealthy by comparison.  Instead you might have a neighborhood where most homes are 3 bedrooms but the rich guys live on the lake in a 5 bedroom house and THEY HAVE A WATER TRAMPOLINE!!!.  And you know this because your son is best friends with his son.

I think int he impoverished areas there's this sense of competition and stratification where communities congeal much more along non-economic lines which ultimately reduces upward mobility.

History is important in this regard too. The Southern United States' entire social system was based on a small number of incredibly wealthy people controlling the impoverished masses through the economic systems of slavery and tenant farming. That legacy is important even today.  

That is true to an extant, but a lot of the most impoverished areas are in the Upland South, where there were few if any large plantations and race was not as prominent with far fewer blacks.
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