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IceSpear
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« on: January 29, 2014, 11:02:40 PM »

Hillary is so electable, that she's up 2 points on a massively corrupt fat ass.

And Biden and Warren are trailing said massively corrupt fatass by 11 and 9 points, so...yes?

This poll is an obvious outlier anyway. Every other poll has Hillary at least up 15 on Cruz. Only 6? Not buying it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2014, 12:16:22 PM »

Hillary is so electable, that she's up 2 points on a massively corrupt fat ass.

And Biden and Warren are trailing said massively corrupt fatass by 11 and 9 points, so...yes?

This poll is an obvious outlier anyway. Every other poll has Hillary at least up 15 on Cruz. Only 6? Not buying it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html


She's got 65% in the primary, so a lot of that difference is her supporters saying they'll only support her. That will definitely change if someone else actually gets the nomination.

That would account for some of the difference. Not all of it.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2014, 12:21:37 PM »

I have a theory that PPP is adding some bias to their results to fuel the anti-Hillary movement. All the other polls show her up big over Christie, and this outlier shows it close. I wouldn't be surprised if most at PPP are rooting for Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schweitzer, or someone else to get the nomination.

I think there's a greater chance that the national polls by Marist, showing huge leads for Clinton, are blown up.

If you look at recent state polls by Quinnipiac, where Clinton is tied with Christie in CO and only has 2012-ish margins in NY, I think the national lead is somewhere around 5-10%, not 20%+

At the moment, the RCP average is Clinton +12.0. The median is Clinton +12.5. The average if you exclude the highest/lowest polls is Clinton +12.3. That's pretty stable.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_christie_vs_clinton-3766.html
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