If not Christie who becomes the "Establishment Candidate" for the GOP?
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« on: January 13, 2014, 02:38:20 AM »
« edited: January 13, 2014, 02:24:29 PM by Kevin »

Not to pile on the guy but if Christie's Presidential ambitions are fatally damaged by "Bridgegate" who becomes the Republican establishment's choice for the nod.

I ask because there are many over viable alternatives to Christie on paper  such as Gov. John Kasich(OH), Gov. Susanna Martinez(NM), Gov. Brian Sandoval(NV) or Gov. Terry Branstad(IA). But none of these examples have the national stature or media profile that the man from Jersey has.

So my question is then who becomes the establishment alternative? If not Christie then who?

On a side note- ether way imo a Tea Party candidate such as Paul or Cruz will not win the Republican nomination unless they prove they can win the general election.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 07:13:00 AM »

Jeb Bush seems like a candidate who could unite the establishment and the conservatives, so I think it could be him.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 08:48:28 AM »

Walker would be it, though a more accurate label would be the fusion candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 09:14:30 AM »

Probably Scott Walker, as he has the potential to unify both the Tea-Party faction and the more establishment faction of the Republican Party.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 09:32:25 AM »

I think Walker will rise temporarily, but ultimately will flounder and fail like Perry. I think Jeb Bush has the best shot if Christie falters. I think he can also unite both wings of the party.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2014, 10:41:42 AM »

Scott Walker!!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2014, 01:44:04 PM »

Not to pile on the guy but if Christie's Presidential ambitions are fatally damaged by "Bridgegate" who becomes the Republican establishment's choice for the

I thought we were going with Bridgeghazi as the scandal term.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 02:27:25 PM »

I don't think Christie was ever the "Establishment Candidate." It's still Bush.

I think the invisible primary for establishment support is currently being fought between the two right now. Walker still seems more like a compromise candidate who could come forward if it becomes clear that both Christie and Bush are unelectable in a Republican primary. I'd love Ryan's chances to win the primary if he ran, but he doesn't seem interested at all and we'll know what he wants if he does get the Ways and Means chairmanship.

That being said, it would be an enormous mistake for the establishment to anoint Bush as its candidate and would be the most likely catalyst for a Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or even Huckabee to win the primary.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 02:27:38 PM »

Not to pile on the guy but if Christie's Presidential ambitions are fatally damaged by "Bridgegate" who becomes the Republican establishment's choice for the

I thought we were going with Bridgeghazi as the scandal term.

Oh we are? I  should have used that then since "Bridgeghazi" sounds like a cooler term!
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 03:57:23 PM »

Scott Walker is the unifying candidate, but Jeb Bush is still the Establishment Candidate. Always has been to me.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 04:23:52 PM »

Jeb Bush seems like a candidate who could unite the establishment and the conservatives, so I think it could be him.

I agree. If he runs, then Jeb is without question the "Establishment" candidate. And along that line, running against Hillary is probably the best and easiest way for him to avoid taking damage from "dynasty" critics. (Although a Clinton vs. Bush national race will provide endless fodder for both comedians and critics of American "democracy".)
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 04:33:05 PM »

This whole thing may push Bush into running as it opens up the race.  But if Bush and Christie are out then there may not be a clear establishment candidate, or at least until one of the others rises above the rest. The big money will wait on the sidelines to see who has the right stuff can can take on the Tea Party types.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 04:37:59 PM »

If not Walker, then I say Thune.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2014, 06:43:52 PM »

Huckabee
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2014, 07:13:53 PM »

Walker obviously people keep talking scandals bringing him down but there's nothing no matter how far Dems have dig they haven't found anything good yet the only obstacle Walker is his re-election he needs to win like he did in 2010/2012 a narrow win would not be good for him. Walker is pretty much the establishment last great hope Jeb Bush or Kasich may run but their not winning the GOP is tired of those types. Honestly Cruz or Paul have a pretty good shot at the nomination considering how good Santorum & the others did.
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2014, 07:53:28 PM »

Yeah no.

The social conservative is never the establishment candidate.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2014, 08:16:15 PM »


So is Christie, IIRC.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2014, 08:16:50 PM »

Yeah no.

The social conservative is never the establishment candidate.

Yeah, Huck is more tea party material than establishment.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2014, 08:20:12 PM »

Yeah no.

The social conservative is never the establishment candidate.

Yeah, Huck is more tea party material than establishment.

Eh, Huckabee's pretty liberal on economic policy compared to the Tea Party.  I'd say he's a generic socon, so he doesn't really fit in either of those categories.

And no, Christie is not pro-choice.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2014, 08:27:51 PM »

Yeah no.

The social conservative is never the establishment candidate.

Yeah, Huck is more tea party material than establishment.

Eh, Huckabee's pretty liberal on economic policy compared to the Tea Party.  I'd say he's a generic socon, so he doesn't really fit in either of those categories.

And no, Christie is not pro-choice.

Makes sense on Huck.

I know Christie isn't exactly a staunch conservative, but I could have sworn i heard pro-choice.  I guess not.  I guess I need to read up more on my candidate of choice!
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2014, 08:28:22 PM »

Huckabee would be destroyed in a GE just play ads of him campaigning and defending Todd Akin and that's only one of many things you could attack him on.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2014, 08:37:35 PM »

Huckabee would be destroyed in a GE just play ads of him campaigning and defending Todd Akin and that's only one of many things you could attack him on.

Yes, I completely agree.
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2014, 08:56:42 PM »

I could see Martinez as well, if Walker, Thune, or Bush don't run especially they would be pushing for her.
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2014, 08:57:28 PM »

Probably Walker, though I still believe (maybe foolishly) that Huntsman could make a run at it. I really doubt Bush will run.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2014, 08:58:46 PM »

Probably Walker, though I still believe (maybe foolishly) that Huntsman could make a run at it. I really doubt Bush will run.
Agreed, Martinez is more likely to run than Bush.
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