Which should it be easier to buy?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

For some reason conservatives think it should be option 2.

[George W. Bush]

Porn

[John Dibble]

Porn, but only because it should be more common.

[Rob]

Ideally, both would be easily available; but if I have to choose, then porn.

[senatortombstone]

For some reason conservatives think it should be option 2.

Yawn, you're so original, coming up with a "trick" question like this.

The answer is obviously guns, as pornography has no benefical uses, degrades women, reinforces unrealistic standards and sexual fantasies, is linked to sexually abusive behavior, rape, incest and murder.  The perpetrators of such acts are almost always influenced by pornography.

Guns have beneficial uses:  self-defense, hunting, range shooting practice.  It is true that guns can be used in criminal acs, but they are not exclusively or inheretly criminal or immoral.

Porn is bad all around for everyone involved.

Why not change thequestion to

who would you rather have babysit your kid?

an NRA member

A NAMBLA member?

Which organization would you rather be a member of

ACLU/NAACP?

NAMBLA?

or you could switch the ACLU/NAACP to the KKK

so which is worse? 

A child molester

A racist?

Come on this is stupid.

[opebo]

Porn should be very easy to buy (or rent), guns exceedingly difficult.

[WiseGuy]

The answer is obviously guns, as pornography has no benefical uses, degrades women, reinforces unrealistic standards and sexual fantasies, is linked to sexually abusive behavior, rape, incest and murder.  The perpetrators of such acts are almost always influenced by pornography.

Guns have beneficial uses:  self-defense, hunting, range shooting practice.  It is true that guns can be used in criminal acs, but they are not exclusively or inheretly criminal or immoral.

I agree.  Also porn can be addictive, guns can not.

[John Dibble]

Porn should be very easy to buy (or rent), guns exceedingly difficult.

When you leftists take away the guns, it'll be harder to fight the conservatives when they take away the porn. Think on that.

[Lunar]

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So, are you in favor of background checks and preventing the sale of firearms to minors?  Obviously you believe pornography shouldn't be available to minors either, but one must question the motives if a minor is trying to buy a gun illegally while the motives are pretty blatant with a minor trying to buy porn.

Also, "all rapists watch porn" is a correlation, not a causation.  Its the equivilent of the argument that the mere possession of a gun makes someone want to kill.

[senatortombstone]

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So, are you in favor of background checks and preventing the sale of firearms to minors?  Obviously you believe pornography shouldn't be available to minors either, but one must question the motives if a minor is trying to buy a gun illegally while the motives are pretty blatant with a minor trying to buy porn.

Also, "all rapists watch porn" is a correlation, not a causation.  Its the equivilent of the argument that the mere possession of a gun makes someone want to kill.

No it's not.  I am sure that the ratio of people who buy porn and commit sexual crimes is much higher than the rate of people who legally buy guns and then use them in the commision of a crime. 

And yes, there should be background checks on people purchasing guns.

[David S]

For some reason conservatives think it should be option 2.

Yawn, you're so original, coming up with a "trick" question like this.

The answer is obviously guns, as pornography has no benefical uses, degrades women, reinforces unrealistic standards and sexual fantasies, is linked to sexually abusive behavior, rape, incest and murder.  The perpetrators of such acts are almost always influenced by pornography.

Guns have beneficial uses:  self-defense, hunting, range shooting practice.  It is true that guns can be used in criminal acs, but they are not exclusively or inheretly criminal or immoral.

Porn is bad all around for everyone involved.

Why not change thequestion to

who would you rather have babysit your kid?

an NRA member

A NAMBLA member?

I favor both being legal, but tombstone makes an excellent point. Yes I would definitely feel quite comfortable with an NRA member baby sitting my kids, but I would not allow a NAMBLA member anywhere near them.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

except most people who buy porn are not NAMBLA members. In fact it would seem there is no correlation at all since porn buyers are obviously into adult females, not little boys.

[senatortombstone]

except most people who buy porn are not NAMBLA members. In fact it would seem there is no correlation at all since porn buyers are obviously into adult females, not little boys.

I take back my previous statement as I have no research to verify it, but I do believe that sexual predators generally do have a propensity for pornography.  However, most people who are into porn are not violent sexual predators.  I, myself used to watch porn until I met my wife.  I realized then how immoral pornography is and have not looked at ever since.  I have owned guns for quite some time and not once have they ever led me to sin.

Pornography has absolutely no moral value, only an immoral one.

[Alcon]

except most people who buy porn are not NAMBLA members. In fact it would seem there is no correlation at all since porn buyers are obviously into adult females, not little boys.

I take back my previous statement as I have no research to verify it, but I do believe that sexual predators generally do have a propensity for pornography.  However, most people who are into porn are not violent sexual predators.  I, myself used to watch porn until I met my wife.  I realized then how immoral pornography is and have not looked at ever since.  I have owned guns for quite some time and not once have they ever led me to sin.

Pornography has absolutely no moral value, only an immoral one.

It is also worth noting that most males in general have a propensity for pornography. Just because certain perverts are consumers of something is not grounds for its illegalization as a whole. You have no way of proving that pornography is the cause of any effect.

[A18]

Government shouldn't restrict either.

[opebo]

Pornography has absolutely no moral value, only an immoral one.

In the first place, this 'morality' you speak exists only in your head.  In the second place, pornography has a great practical value or purpose, and that is to assist in getting the baby-batter out of where it be festering.  What are guys suppose to do whilst whacking, stare at the wall?

[Richard]

Porn should be very easy to buy (or rent), guns exceedingly difficult.

So much for civil liberties.

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I favor both being legal, but tombstone makes an excellent point. Yes I would definitely feel quite comfortable with an NRA member baby sitting my kids, but I would not allow a NAMBLA member anywhere near them.

Also completely irrelevant.

[nclib]

Porn should certainly be much easier to buy than guns.

[senatortombstone]

Pornography has absolutely no moral value, only an immoral one.

In the first place, this 'morality' you speak exists only in your head. 

Oh please, let's not get morally ambiguous here, okay!

Morally is to society as grammar is to a language.  Society and langauges would be nothing but chaotic nonsense without morality and grammar.

If you prescribe to the school of thought that says good and evil are subjective views and there are no moral absolutes then that means any behavior can be justified, including murder, molestation and sterilizing all people who voted for someone other than george bush.

Hitler wasn't immoral, he was just ensuring the survival of what he deemed important to himself.

moral relativity is not a slipery slope, you don't slide downwards to distruction.  you fall to it right through the moral plane.

[John Dibble]

moral relativity is not a slipery slope, you don't slide downwards to distruction.  you fall to it right through the moral plane.

Well, I have to disagree with you here. Hitler obviously didn't think he was evil, and I doubt Osama bin Laden thinks he is evil - if they did think they were evil the world would be quite a bit different, don't you think? No, what makes people like them dangerous is not that they were evil from a moral standpoint, whether relatively or absolutly. What makes people like them dangerous is that people like them think they are right, that they are completely justified in their actions and that those who oppose them are those who are in the wrong. Such a way of thinking gives them a frightening resolve to carry out the deeds they believe they must do.

Now, the above doesn't say that certain moral sets aren't more beneficial to both individuals and society as a whole. Certainly, if a vast majority of people think murder is immoral and are willing to take action against murderers, that is good for many people - except murderers, of course - since most people don't want to be murdered, and thus it is in their reasoned self-interest to keep people from murdering eachother in order to prevent themselves from being murdered. With this common moral set, society is allowed to grow much better than it would without it. I've always been of the philosophy treat people as you would wish to be treated - it's pretty effective in most cases.

[DanielX]

Both.

[angus]

the normative proposition?  gee, that's original.

well, anyway I say porn.  what the hell?  I think you should have to be, like, maybe 18 to buy a fully automatic weapon, but porn...  I guess I really don't have a problem with minors purchasing hard- or soft-core pornographic video, audio, or print media.

[TomC]

Both should be easy, but with porn there should be a bit more privacy, so I voted porn. And I have no desire to buy a gun.

[angus]

assuming it legal, how old should a young man or woman have to be to buy a homo- or heterosexual whore?  I'm leaning toward 15, but that's rather arbitrary.  I figure if you're old enough to drive a car, you're old enough to drive.