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« on: December 20, 2013, 05:11:50 PM »
George Washington: 77.6% Approval
John Adams: 87.0% Approval
Thomas Jefferson: 70.4% Approval
James Madison: 81.0% Approval
James Monroe: 66.7% Approval
John Quincy Adams: 79.6% Approval
Andrew Jackson: 23.7% Approval

8th President of the United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Van_Buren

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 05:29:22 PM »
Horrible President, but great in his post-Presidency. FF on the balance.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 05:29:48 PM »
Quote from: Senator TNF on December 20, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
Horrible President, but great in his post-Presidency. FF on the balance.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 05:57:33 PM »
Quote from: Senator TNF on December 20, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
Horrible President, but great in his post-Presidency. FF on the balance.

Pretty much, he wasn't a relate-able President but he had a role on out political system among other things.

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 06:00:03 PM »
One of the best.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 06:01:25 PM »
FF overall.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 06:03:35 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM »
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 06:13:52 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 06:35:25 PM »
Quote from: Siren on December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.

This, pretty much.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 07:16:32 PM »
Quote from: OAM on December 20, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
Quote from: Siren on December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.

This, pretty much.

Yeahhhh. HP.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 10:41:40 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 10:48:12 PM »
Quote from: Siren on December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.

Last I checked, Jackson won two easy popular victories.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 11:38:12 PM »
Quote from: Cathcon on December 20, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Siren on December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.

Last I checked, Jackson won two easy popular victories.

Jackson only ran for a second term because Van Buren turned him against Calhoun and others.  Furthermore, the Democratic Party, which Jackson used to great success, was organized by VB.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 11:54:43 PM »
Quote from: OAM on December 20, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: Cathcon on December 20, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Siren on December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.

Last I checked, Jackson won two easy popular victories.

Jackson only ran for a second term because Van Buren turned him against Calhoun and others.  Furthermore, the Democratic Party, which Jackson used to great success, was organized by VB.
What's bad about those things?
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2013, 12:21:58 AM »
« Edited: December 21, 2013, 12:24:38 AM by Birthday Boy »
VB also represented a continuation of Jackson's Native American policy.

Also, another slave owner, so that one guy is going to vote HP by default since owning a slave makes one an HP despite the fact that he only owned one slave that ended up running away and then sold, and also was on the Anti-Slavery Free Soil party Presidential ticket.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2013, 11:29:34 PM »
Quote from: Deus Naturae on December 20, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: OAM on December 20, 2013, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: Cathcon on December 20, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: Siren on December 20, 2013, 06:09:48 PM
He doesn't seem to get enough credit for being the master mind behind Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny.

Last I checked, Jackson won two easy popular victories.

Jackson only ran for a second term because Van Buren turned him against Calhoun and others.  Furthermore, the Democratic Party, which Jackson used to great success, was organized by VB.
What's bad about those things?

Well, you may be in the 23.7% of people that liked Andrew Jackson, but for the other 76.3%, what's bad should be obvious.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2013, 01:08:56 AM »
Dutch as all heck.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 02:05:06 AM »
Interesting to note that like all northern presidents of antebellum Jacksonian America, Martin van Buren was personally and morally against slavery, but given that the unity of the republic was his highest priority (as it was for Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, and James Buchanan who all shared his personal aversion to the institution of slavery) he did all he could to placate the South. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2013, 05:54:24 AM »
There are many miles of distance between the "not really a fan, as such, though it may look like it to outside observers" attitude of Fillmore or Buchanan, and Van Buren's who was, it is safe to say, the most opposed President pre-Lincoln.
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2013, 06:09:32 AM »
Not bad, a B- for his presidency and a solid A- afterwards.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2013, 12:21:33 PM »
So, since there are two of these going on, are you going to quit or is he?
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2013, 01:22:41 PM »
HP based on my understanding of his role in the Trail of Tears, although, as I'm not well informed about his presidency as I should be, I'd be willing to be convinced otherwise.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2013, 01:24:01 PM »
Quote from: Laloo Prasad on December 22, 2013, 05:54:24 AM
There are many miles of distance between the "not really a fan, as such, though it may look like it to outside observers" attitude of Fillmore or Buchanan, and Van Buren's who was, it is safe to say, the most opposed President pre-Lincoln.

John Quincy Adams?

And Taylor, while a slaveholder, was quite opposed to its expansion outside the West, something that Pierce and Buchanan were willing to entice.
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2013, 01:34:26 PM »
Quote from: BushOkla-Ho-Ho-Ho-ma on December 22, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
So, since there are two of these going on, are you going to quit or is he?

I don't think either of us will. Honestly I should've even brought it up either.
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