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« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2013, 01:10:07 AM »

Wendy Davis's campaign needs to cherry pick every batsh!t crazy thing Steve Stockman and Dan Patrick say during the upcoming primaries and run them on TV ads on an endless loop. No commentary. Just a big message at the end that says, "This is the Texas Republican Party. Who are you going to vote for?"

If Wendy Davis wants to run against Stockman she should've ran for Senate (and now I'm wishing she did).

But Stockman's not likely to end up winning(esp. given the dynamics he is facing). Then what? She ends up losing by 20+ points to Cornyn.

If Wendy Davis wants to hold any higher office she is better off running for governor(even if that is a long shot too).

Well her chances against both Abbott and Cornyn are 0%. But her chances against Stockman would be somewhere north of 0%.

Well Stockman isn't even likely to win the primary so it's a moot point.

What makes you think that? If Christine O'Donnell can beat Mike Castle in DELAWARE of all places, then Steve Stockman can beat John Cornyn in Texas.

If Chris Coons and Joe Donnelly thought about who was "likely" to win a primary, they wouldn't be senators right now.
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« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2013, 01:25:50 AM »

Wendy Davis's campaign needs to cherry pick every batsh!t crazy thing Steve Stockman and Dan Patrick say during the upcoming primaries and run them on TV ads on an endless loop. No commentary. Just a big message at the end that says, "This is the Texas Republican Party. Who are you going to vote for?"

If Wendy Davis wants to run against Stockman she should've ran for Senate (and now I'm wishing she did).

But Stockman's not likely to end up winning(esp. given the dynamics he is facing). Then what? She ends up losing by 20+ points to Cornyn.

If Wendy Davis wants to hold any higher office she is better off running for governor(even if that is a long shot too).

Well her chances against both Abbott and Cornyn are 0%. But her chances against Stockman would be somewhere north of 0%.

Well Stockman isn't even likely to win the primary so it's a moot point.

What makes you think that? If Christine O'Donnell can beat Mike Castle in DELAWARE of all places, then Steve Stockman can beat John Cornyn in Texas.

If Chris Coons and Joe Donnelly thought about who was "likely" to win a primary, they wouldn't be senators right now.

1. Cornyn is a heavily entrenched, well funded, Senator who is backed by all the establishment conservatives in TX(ppl Cruz didn't piss off when he was running for Senate)

2. Texas is not Delaware it is a lot bigger a state with a more politically diverse(interest-wise) GOP then that of DE. Texas is also much more Conservative then DE and even "moderate" Democrats who would be very electable anywhere else(even in other red states) struggle against conservative Republicans. So even if Stockman were to somehow win he could have a fair shot at the Senate(which even for me is pretty scary)

3. Stockman does not have the money or other resources to mount any serious challenge to Cornyn. You use the O'Donnell analogy but again running a campaign in a state like DE(one of the nation's smallest states) is a lot different from running one in TX(one of the biggest). Also I just don't see a lot f the Tea Party types railing around Stockman for some reason. Already the Club for Growth(a thorn in the side of establishment GOP politicians has said it would back Sen. Cornyn). I also don't see other "conservative" exactly lining up to back Stockman ether. Simply put if you don't have the money you aren't exactly in a position to win-esp. in a state as big as Texas.
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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2013, 07:21:04 AM »


State Rep. James White, who represents the non-Houston metro east Texas counties in CD36, is looking at this race. Despite the area's conservaDem history, White is a black Republican who ousted a white Democrat in 2010.
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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2013, 07:25:46 AM »

What a great early Christmas present!
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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2013, 07:33:23 AM »

Stockman is a clown even by Tea Party standards. He's not going to get major outside support and, given the size of Texas and its early primary, there's no way he can raise enough on his own to be even vaguely competitive.

I would not be surprised to see him lose by a 2-1 margin.
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« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2013, 09:49:24 AM »

Stockman is a clown even by Tea Party standards. He's not going to get major outside support and, given the size of Texas and its early primary, there's no way he can raise enough on his own to be even vaguely competitive.

I would not be surprised to see him lose by a 2-1 margin.

Exactly!

You just summed it up for me.
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« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2013, 03:27:23 PM »


State Rep. James White, who represents the non-Houston metro east Texas counties in CD36, is looking at this race. Despite the area's conservaDem history, White is a black Republican who ousted a white Democrat in 2010.

Or not.

Incumbent legislators who have already filed for reelection can't switch to this race.
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« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2013, 10:21:46 AM »

Since the 17th Amendment only 12% of TX Congressman who ran for the Senate were successful.
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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2013, 08:07:12 AM »

Stockman is down by a lot:

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http://www.texastribune.org/2013/12/13/independent-poll-has-cornyn-big-stockman

https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.texastribune.org/media/documents/WPA_Texas_Senate_Republican_Primary_Ballot_131213_5.pdf
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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2013, 03:22:31 PM »


Joe Miller and Christine O'Donnell also trailed by heavy margins this early. And Murkowski in particular had way higher re-elect numbers than Cornyn does.
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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2013, 03:11:16 PM »

How very, umm, creative:

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Maybe this is Stockman's way of standing in solidarity with the Free Barfbag posters! haha.
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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2013, 03:18:51 PM »

This is Rep. Stockman's condemned office, not a Hoarders preview:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/pictures-from-inside-steve-stockman-s-condemned-campaign-office
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« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2013, 02:23:40 AM »



We have 10 more weeks of this you guys.
TEN MORE WEEKS! Cheesy
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« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2013, 02:28:43 AM »



We have 10 more weeks of this you guys.
TEN MORE WEEKS! Cheesy
lmao

Man, I hope this guy becomes a Senator so bad. The bad press he's going to generate for the Republicans will be a never ending gift.
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« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2013, 02:43:06 AM »

So Texas could end up with 2 total lunatics as Senators? I think even with Stockman as the nominee, it would be safe Republican. He'd be running against a nobody Democrat in Texas, after all.
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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2013, 08:26:00 AM »

The Texas Democratic Party can't even get some representative to run?  It is imperative to always run someone who could theoretically win in the right circumstances, because you just never know.  Remember Kentucky 2006.
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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2013, 06:29:25 PM »

The Texas Democratic Party can't even get some representative to run?  It is imperative to always run someone who could theoretically win in the right circumstances, because you just never know.  Remember Kentucky 2006.

Stockman filed at the very last second before the deadline. I'm sure had Democrats known he would jump in they would've at least gotten a somewhat real candidate.
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« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2013, 01:00:23 AM »

So Texas could end up with 2 total lunatics as Senators? I think even with Stockman as the nominee, it would be safe Republican. He'd be running against a nobody Democrat in Texas, after all.
I doubt it. Stockman has a lot of ground to make up with Cornyn's 44 point lead over him, and it certainly doesn't help with the NRA and Right to Life already endorsing Cornyn. However, I was watching msnbc the other day (Yes, criticize me) and Kornacki was mentioning how it was completely expected for Dewhurst to win where out of the blue this extreme conservative whacko pops out of nowhere and gets the nomination (Ted Cruz). So Stockman's chances are low, but in today's politics, an upset is plausible.

But yeah, if Stockman and Scherr end up being the nominees, it will still be a Republican hold. The Democrats in the race suffer from a huge lack of name recognition leaving Texans to go for Mr. "Guns Can Save Fetuses."
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« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2013, 01:03:30 AM »

Of course. R-Texas and all that.

On the bright side, if Stockman wins, we have a chance at Castro getting a Senate seat.
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« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2013, 01:11:14 AM »

Ted Cruz didn't just come out of nowhere. He was given a lot of favorable press and built up, had excellent credentials as Solicitor and so forth as well as a top flight education. Dewhurst on the other hand was just lame, Martha Coakley style lame. It would be like Tom Cotton running against Thom Tillis in a primary.
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« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2013, 01:14:01 AM »

Ted Cruz didn't just come out of nowhere. He was given a lot of favorable press and built up, had excellent credentials as Solicitor and so forth as well as a top flight education. Dewhurst on the other hand was just lame, Martha Coakley style lame. It would be like Tom Cotton running against Thom Tillis in a primary.

It would actually be pretty interesting to write a piece comparing and contrasting Dewhurst and Coakley's attempts to rebuild after a failed election.
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« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2013, 09:07:15 AM »

Of course. R-Texas and all that.

On the bright side, if Stockman wins, we have a chance at Castro getting a Senate seat.

Castro's not running and its too late for either of them to enter
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« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2013, 07:48:36 PM »

Of course. R-Texas and all that.

On the bright side, if Stockman wins, we have a chance at Castro getting a Senate seat.

Castro's not running and its too late for either of them to enter
I think he meant come 2020 when the seat would be up again. Because when that time comes around, not only will there be higher turnout from it being a Presidential year, but the state will be more Democratic by then and assuming Stockman is as toxic in 6 years still as he is now, it would be a very close and competitive race.

However, that's only a long-distanced hope because Cornyn will most likely survive the primary anyways and if he does, he'll easily win the general and may decide to run again in 2020 since he's really not that old yet.
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« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2013, 08:09:04 PM »

Of course. R-Texas and all that.

On the bright side, if Stockman wins, we have a chance at Castro getting a Senate seat.

Castro's not running and its too late for either of them to enter
I think he meant come 2020 when the seat would be up again. Because when that time comes around, not only will there be higher turnout from it being a Presidential year, but the state will be more Democratic by then and assuming Stockman is as toxic in 6 years still as he is now, it would be a very close and competitive race.

However, that's only a long-distanced hope because Cornyn will most likely survive the primary anyways and if he does, he'll easily win the general and may decide to run again in 2020 since he's really not that old yet.

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« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2013, 08:37:06 PM »



We have 10 more weeks of this you guys.
TEN MORE WEEKS! Cheesy
That image will be haunting me for the rest of my life.
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