Pacific Council: Revised Discussion Time Act (Approved)

[DemPGH]

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Let's discuss this.

I'm not sure clause two should be indefinite, but I like the idea behind this. I'm curious as to the context / reason / impetus.

I believe the sponsor is PJ.

[PJ]

Yes I am sponsor. This was inspired by Xahar's actions as Speaker to hold a vote with no discussion time on my original amendment to the Random Acronym Relating to Council Order. This basically ensures that debate is not cut off by a vote.

[Spamage]

I'm against this. It has the potential to create bills sitting far too long and too little getting done.

[DemPGH]

Yeah, can I suggest a minimum time to clause two? Clause three looks fine. Clause two reads as though it would be indefinite, and to be honest, if someone wanted to use that to shut down the legislative process, they could.

I suspected it was NM antics that were the impetus. Let's do 72 or 96 hours, which would be three or four days. That reasonable?

[PJ]

Yeah, can I suggest a minimum time to clause two? Clause three looks fine. Clause two reads as though it would be indefinite, and to be honest, if someone wanted to use that to shut down the legislative process, they could.

I suspected it was NM antics that were the impetus. Let's do 72 or 96 hours, which would be three or four days. That reasonable?

I would support 72 hours.

[DemPGH]

Okay, how about this? Should be easy to get this one through, then.

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[PJ]

Amendment is friendly.

[DemPGH]

Okay, final vote, then. Let's have at it. Hopefully, enough will show.

Yes.

[Хahar 🤔]

I oppose this, obviously. If you try to impose strict rules on a body like the Pacific Council that nobody really cares about, the only thing that will happen will be that they're ignored. There's a reason this body's rules are flexible.

[PJ]

I oppose this, obviously. If you try to impose strict rules on a body like the Pacific Council that nobody really cares about, the only thing that will happen will be that they're ignored. There's a reason this body's rules are flexible.

Are your going to introduce "re-eduction bills" like Al in the Mideast? That would be funny. I don't agree with your premise though. Every other regional legislative body has rules and functions at least somewhat well in that respect.

[DemPGH]

My yes vote stands. It's a procedural requirement that guarantees that a person has sufficient time to respond.

[Flake]

Aye

[Хahar 🤔]

无

[DemPGH]

With a minimum of two votes in favor, this passes.

Voting Yes: Councillors DemPGH and Flo
Vote Unrecognizable: Councillor Xahar

[PJ]

I don't need to sign it, as it is a RACO amendment, so this is passed.