The Sage Garden

[Joe Republic]

Countries aren't the biggest threats to world peace, the international ruling class is.

[Paul Kemp]

Countries aren't the biggest threats to world peace, the international ruling class is.

Never forget.

[Oakvale]

Meta:

Ultimately voted FF because I'm chum in the middle of the ocean, and most of the sharks are bigger HP's than I am.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Meta:

Ultimately voted FF because I'm chum in the middle of the ocean, and most of the sharks are bigger HP's than I am.

Okay, the metaphor sounded better in my head.

But please, continue proving me right.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

He's not 'proving you right'.

[LastVoter]

it usually goes without saying that the decision to get married is a bad decision.

I don't believe this meets the criteria for this thread.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

it usually goes without saying that the decision to get married is a bad decision.

I don't believe this meets the criteria for this thread.

I'm pretty sure that it qualifies as a 'failed attempt at edginess or profundity'. You may not think that it failed. I do.

[Joe Republic]

I'm pretty sure that it qualifies as a 'failed attempt at edginess or profundity'. You may not think that it failed. I do.

That's basically Tweed's tagline, after all.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I'm pretty sure that it qualifies as a 'failed attempt at edginess or profundity'. You may not think that it failed. I do.

That's basically Tweed's tagline, after all.

...true. Looking at it that way, his posting history is enough of a sage garden already, so I suppose in that sense seatown is right.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

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[morgieb]

Being liberated from the shackles of social norms and tradition isn't easy for others to accept! I think posters here may underestimate how radical I am in spite of the PM scores.

[Paul Kemp]

While that previous post is most sage, I raise you this:

Countries aren't the biggest threats to world peace, the international ruling class is.

Precisely.

The worst warmongers often speak on behalf of the "peace-loving people" that they allegedly represent.

War is profitable for elites -- unless the political order that serves them is overthrown and those elites are dispossessed.  War is good for corporate profits from steel-making to provisioning, let alone weapons manufacture. It's even good for bankers who get high-yield bonds of little likelihood of default so long as victory ensues. War is a marvelous excuse for throttling the interests of laborers on farms or in factories.

If war goes well, the cartels and trusts get new, captive markets in defeated countries -- and with direct colonization or the establishment of a puppet state, resources to loot for minimal cost and cheap labor to exploit to the fullest. Upon victory the agrarian interests of the victor might impose ruinous taxes upon freehold farmers who have no alternative but to submit to hereditary peonage.

War is a scam. Maybe the best way to stop war is to break the power of the traditional ruling elites -- break the trusts and cartels, open the market to international competition, do land reform that turns landless peasants into freehold farmers, and permit strong unions to form. Oh yes -- impose gender equity.     

[morgieb]

Wow. I think Snowstalker has been outsaged. Well done.

[Sopranos Republican]

In order: Teddy, Ike, Lincoln, and Nixon. It's not that I refused to pick a fifth. I just wasn't sure who would get the final vote. I will say, somewhat controversially, that Lincoln is very overrated.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The battle lines have been drawn. If and when opebo falls, freedom on Atlas will end and we will all submit to the ruling cabal. Since they have fired, it is high time we fire back.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Green nuttery is a cancer on the left and a roadblock for modernization.

[Velasco]

Green nuttery is a cancer on the left and a roadblock for modernization.

Don't forget this one. It's as sage as the post you quoted:

It's pretty true. Those hippies wanna take us back to the stone age.

Snowstalker is not the only who posts sage sentences on here. I don't get why you focus solely on him when a normal internet forum is plenty of statements like these. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just people giving opinions. Sometimes well-informed and articulate, sometimes ill-informed commonplaces like the quoted above. Redalgo addressed Snowstalker's statement in that thread without resorting to mockery.

[Paul Kemp]

Don't forget this one. It's as sage as the post you quoted:

It's pretty true. Those hippies wanna take us back to the stone age.

Not really. "Sage" is defined in my book as a failed attempt at displaying some kind of profound intellect  with a sense of elitism. I don't think Cathcon's statement meets the criteria.

[Velasco]

I don't see a special sense of elitism in Snowstalker's sentence nor a great difference with the following quote. They were just pontificating, something very usual in a forum like this.

[Oakvale]

The primary difference is that Cathcon is funny and possesses self-awareness.

[Velasco]

The primary difference is that Cathcon is funny and possesses self-awareness.

Define "funny" and "self-awareness". I don't know Catchcon as well as you surely and not too much the other poster. I read that sentence and I see nothing remarkably funny, it's just like the previous one. I suspect you are judging sentences on the basis of the forum's reputation instead of judging the sentence itself. Isn't there a certain elitism here?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Cathcon can be an arrogant prick sometimes. Sure, he's no Snowstalker, but that's not a reason to make him immune of any criticism.

[Oakvale]

Cathcon can be an arrogant prick sometimes. Sure, he's no Snowstalker, but that's not a reason to make him immune of any criticism.

The only way I can see someone thinking this is if you assume Cathcon isn't intentionally being hyperbolic 99% of the time.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Though how funny is that sort of 'irony' from a White American, I wonder.

[Paul Kemp]

I don't think anyone is saying that someone is immune from criticism (if you consider being placed in The Garden criticism, that is) but that it simply doesn't meet the expected criteria. If anything a post like that would be better suited for The Deluge, as one could take it to display ignorance.

Obvious the expression "sage" here is used sarcastically or ironically but the very definition (I hate doing this) is: "having, showing, or indicating profound wisdom". I'm not sure Cathcon's statement applies, sarcastically or literally.

That being said, this shows why these threads are kinda dumb.