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« on: November 26, 2013, 12:13:23 PM »

Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President Barack Obama’s job performance?

Approve .......................................................... 43%
Disapprove...................................................... 53%

Q2 Do you approve or disapprove of Governor Tom Corbett’s job performance?

Approve .......................................................... 24%
Disapprove...................................................... 65%

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Tom Corbett .................................................... 32%
John Hanger ................................................... 51%

Tom Corbett .................................................... 31%
Rob McCord.................................................... 50%

Tom Corbett .................................................... 32%
Katie McGinty ................................................. 47%

Tom Corbett .................................................... 33%
Ed Pawlowski.................................................. 45%

Tom Corbett .................................................... 33%
Allyson Schwartz............................................. 48%

Tom Corbett .................................................... 30%
Jack Wagner................................................... 50%

Tom Corbett .................................................... 32%
Tom Wolf......................................................... 44%

...

Jim Gerlach..................................................... 31%
Allyson Schwartz............................................. 39%

Mike Kelly ....................................................... 33%
Allyson Schwartz............................................. 41%

...

Survey of 436 Democratic primary voters:

Given the choices of John Hanger, JoEllen Litz,
Rob McCord, Katie McGinty, Max Myers, Ed
Pawlowski, Allyson Schwartz, Jack Wagner,
and Tom Wolf, who would you most like the
Democratic candidate for Governor to be next
year?

John Hanger ................................................... 8%
JoEllen Litz ..................................................... 2%
Rob McCord.................................................... 10%
Katie McGinty ................................................. 9%
Max Myers ...................................................... 2%
Ed Pawlowski.................................................. 4%
Allyson Schwartz............................................. 21%
Jack Wagner................................................... 17%
Tom Wolf......................................................... 2%
Someone else/Not sure .................................. 27%

Survey of 491 Republican primary voters:

If the Republican candidates for Governor next
year were Tom Corbett and Jim Gerlach, who
would you vote for?

Tom Corbett .................................................... 42%
Jim Gerlach..................................................... 31%

If the Republican candidates for Governor next
year were Tom Corbett and Mike Kelly, who
would you vote for?

Tom Corbett .................................................... 42%
Mike Kelly ....................................................... 31%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2013/PPP_Release_PA_112613.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 12:41:01 PM »

The people of Pennsylvania stand with The President (relatively).
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 04:42:48 PM »

Could this get any worse. My god, this is just the worse disgrace of a governor I've seen...
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 07:00:43 PM »

So what was that about PA's "Republican trend" again?
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 01:21:17 AM »

So what was that about PA's "Republican trend" again?

Christie leads Hillary by 4 in the state in a poll from the same pollster. That's where.

As for PA, Republicans should abandon Corbett and nominate someone else. Hell, anyone else will do. They might not win, but it's worth the old college try.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 04:21:56 AM »

So what was that about PA's "Republican trend" again?

Christie leads Hillary by 4 in the state in a poll from the same pollster. That's where.

While all the others do worse than Romney. That's the strength of Christie, not a GOP trend.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 07:33:33 AM »

So what was that about PA's "Republican trend" again?

Christie leads Hillary by 4 in the state in a poll from the same pollster. That's where.

While all the others do worse than Romney. That's the strength of Christie, not a GOP trend.

Relative unknowns against Hillary are trailing her three years ahead of the election. Imagine that.

And explain this one: Christie leading Hillary isn't a sign of GOP strength, just a sign of his strength but Corbett's standing is proof that the state isn't trending Republican, not just a reflection of his weakness?
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 05:44:10 PM »

So what was that about PA's "Republican trend" again?

Christie leads Hillary by 4 in the state in a poll from the same pollster. That's where.

While all the others do worse than Romney. That's the strength of Christie, not a GOP trend.

Relative unknowns against Hillary are trailing her three years ahead of the election. Imagine that.

And explain this one: Christie leading Hillary isn't a sign of GOP strength, just a sign of his strength but Corbett's standing is proof that the state isn't trending Republican, not just a reflection of his weakness?

Touche. But still, a 20 point deficit is quite different from a 4 point one, even taking into account the lean of the state.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2013, 06:15:58 PM »

Go John Hanger go!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2013, 06:28:00 PM »

The people of Pennsylvania stand with The President (relatively).

Even though the Presidents approval is (relatively speaking better) then Corbett's keep telling yourself that Lief.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2013, 07:05:44 PM »

So, basically Corbett is an awful governor and is going down in flames. When someone is this bad - see, Corzine in NJ - it doesn't really reflect much of anything about the state's trend. It just means that the Governor is awful.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2013, 07:18:40 PM »

So, basically Corbett is an awful governor and is going down in flames. When someone is this bad - see, Corzine in NJ - it doesn't really reflect much of anything about the state's trend. It just means that the Governor is awful.

I basically agree,

incumbency and a state's political lean are powerful assets but they can only help you so much.

Given Corbett's number's I wouldn't be surprised if he is defeated in the primary imo.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2013, 10:02:10 PM »

Corbett would have trouble being re-elected Governor in a state like Tennessee or Indiana. Has nothing to do with how Pennsylvania is trending or not trending.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2013, 10:00:13 AM »

So, basically Corbett is an awful governor and is going down in flames. When someone is this bad - see, Corzine in NJ - it doesn't really reflect much of anything about the state's trend. It just means that the Governor is awful.

Much so. At this level of contempt the low approval rating has nothing to do with partisan issues. This is typical of a reeking scandal.
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2013, 10:58:26 AM »

As for PA, Republicans should abandon Corbett and nominate someone else. Hell, anyone else will do. They might not win, but it's worth the old college try.
This, because they're more likely to win with someone else.  I'd hate to see Pennsylvania break their longtime 8-year cycle now.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2013, 11:01:30 AM »

Could this get any worse. My god, this is just the worse disgrace of a governor I've seen...

Rick Scott?
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2013, 04:34:01 PM »

Could this get any worse. My god, this is just the worse disgrace of a governor I've seen...

Rick Scott?

Nope, he may be a worse governor in your opinion, but his numbers aren't as bad. Corbett clearly has the worst numbers of a governor currently.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2013, 05:33:13 PM »

Could this get any worse. My god, this is just the worse disgrace of a governor I've seen...

Rick Scott?

Nope, he may be a worse governor in your opinion, but his numbers aren't as bad. Corbett clearly has the worst numbers of a governor currently.

Judging a Governor's performance by their approvals, lol. I hate Corbett with every fiber of my being, but even I would rather have him be my Governor than Rick Scott.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2013, 12:11:55 AM »

Could this get any worse. My god, this is just the worse disgrace of a governor I've seen...

Rick Scott?

Nope, he may be a worse governor in your opinion, but his numbers aren't as bad. Corbett clearly has the worst numbers of a governor currently.

Judging a Governor's performance by their approvals, lol. I hate Corbett with every fiber of my being, but even I would rather have him be my Governor than Rick Scott.

Rick Scott's a self-serving asshole who treats the state of Florida as a smaller asset of his company, but at least he didn't cover up mass molestations.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2013, 06:35:22 PM »

Could this get any worse. My god, this is just the worse disgrace of a governor I've seen...

Rick Scott?

Nope, he may be a worse governor in your opinion, but his numbers aren't as bad. Corbett clearly has the worst numbers of a governor currently.

Judging a Governor's performance by their approvals, lol. I hate Corbett with every fiber of my being, but even I would rather have him be my Governor than Rick Scott.

Rick Scott's a self-serving asshole who treats the state of Florida as a smaller asset of his company, but at least he didn't cover up mass molestations.

Molestations? I'll go one further -- some were rapes.
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 08:39:46 AM »

Jim Gerlach would be a better choice
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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 09:17:50 AM »

And explain this one: Christie leading Hillary isn't a sign of GOP strength, just a sign of his strength but Corbett's standing is proof that the state isn't trending Republican, not just a reflection of his weakness?

Good point. I don't think Pennsylvania is trending significantly either way though -it has been very consistent in the presidential elections of the past two decades, compared to the national average. In a 50-50 election it will still be (slightly) lean Democrat.

Do you think Corbett will be the nominee in November - surely they can't let him be nominated if these numbers don't change? And how are Gerlach/Kelly/others' chances if they run?
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