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« on: November 26, 2013, 08:59:09 am »

Leads Rauner by 3 but trails Rutherford by 2, among other things. 60/33 disapprove.
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 09:37:39 am »

So, Quinn hasn't made any progress with his approval ratings.

They are still in the dumpster ...

But despite this, Republicans manage only a 2-point lead at best.

But, Quinn is in trouble ...
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 09:54:33 am »

On the plus side, Dan Rutherford is only 5 points behind the best possible candidacy, so there we go. A little surprised he does better than Dillard, but still.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 11:57:15 am »

This happens with machine politics -- people eventually get horrible politicians but few reliable means of getting rid of them. This is a mirror image of Texas, Kansas, and Georgia in which Republicans have awful governors who can be defeated only if people get desperate. The Democrats mercifully have few states in which such is possible.

The machine politicians use political patronage to win support from well-heeled contributors who then sponsor the re-election of their political benefactors. The public gets $crewed. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 12:45:50 pm »

  It's not that people like Quinn

It's that the GOP candidates are THAT BAD

  This will be a race with millions and millions (expecially if Rauner is the GOP nominee) dumped into it to try and motivate the other side to stay home.

  When push comes to shove, if the Dems get their Cook County turnout machine going like in 2010, they'll have a very good chance of squeaking by.
  The GOP has no where near any kind of turnout machine like the Dems do and in 2010, they were caught flat footed.  They probably wont be this time around, but they still don't have the kind of operation the Dems do.

  Heck, Quinn may win it this time carrying only 1 county out of 102 versus 4 in 2010.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 04:41:04 pm »

GOP is quite horrible with 60/33 approval ratings! This looks like another close 2010-like race.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 04:45:34 pm »

Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=1720131125108

Guys, it is important that these are being entered correctly.  It's taking me a lot of time to go through and correct the bad entries.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 04:47:49 pm »

Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=1720131125108

Guys, it is important that these are being entered correctly.  It's taking me a lot of time to go through and correct the bad entries.

Inks, can you check out the MS-Sen poll, too? The numbers entered don't match any of the poll's toplines.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 08:28:20 pm »

Patrick Quinn has the dubious record of enacting a draconian income tax. That draconian income tax will of course expire if the people vote correctly in the 2014 elections.

The people will soar to the polls to deliver a good thrashing.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 09:44:38 pm »

Should Rutherford win nomination I would agree but he is trailing Dem favored tea party candidate Brady.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 02:29:23 pm »

Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=1720131125108

Guys, it is important that these are being entered correctly.  It's taking me a lot of time to go through and correct the bad entries.

Inks, can you check out the MS-Sen poll, too? The numbers entered don't match any of the poll's toplines.

Something went wrong when I tried to edit it, so I had to delete it and start over, but it's fixed now.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2013, 01:17:43 am »
« Edited: November 30, 2013, 12:35:39 am by Senator Maxwell »

Should Rutherford win nomination I would agree but he is trailing Dem favored tea party candidate Brady.

One poll showed Brady in favor. I have my doubts about him receiving the nom again.

As for the other candidates: I think Rutherford is probably most likely, though Rauner seems to have the financial well being to do battle. Dillard would have a stronger shot with more conservatives fighting amongst one another, but seeing as that is not the case, it's a hopeless campaign.

Update: Turns out, Rauner's money advantage is starting to have a distinct effect on the primary, leading Brady by 7, with Rutherford at 14 and Dillard at 10 (yikes!).
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 12:15:11 am »

I'm hoping Hynes gets in on this primary action.
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2013, 01:10:23 am »

I'm hoping Hynes gets in on this primary action.
Too late, filing deadline is Monday
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2013, 01:04:01 pm »

Dan Hynes is out of it politically. 2016 senate race will have Lisa Madigan in it should Hilary run for prez or a lesser known challenger if Hilary doesn't. Hilary will get Schumer who is involved with DSCC recruitment get her to run.
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2013, 03:01:02 pm »

The IL GOP is a really sad state of affairs. 
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2013, 04:25:42 pm »

Patrick Quinn has the dubious record of enacting a draconian income tax. That draconian income tax will of course expire if the people vote correctly in the 2014 elections.

The people will soar to the polls to deliver a good thrashing.

"Governor of Illinois" is the most snake-bitten office in America. The Governor's mansion seems to have a trap-door to a prison cell.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2013, 12:42:22 am »

You'd think the fact that Quinn is staying out of prison would make him more popular than most Illinois governors.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2013, 12:51:51 am »

Maybe that's what makes him so unpopular?  Any Illinois governor worth his salt would be in prison right now.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2013, 02:13:05 pm »

Trende still has this Leaning D.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2013, 02:30:50 pm »


That's dumb logic. Republicans won the IL senate race just four years ago, an ostensibly even more partisan race.
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