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« on: November 26, 2013, 01:22:50 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/25/that-time-i-ate-eggs-and-talked-about-the-filibuster-with-scott-walker/

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 05:59:09 AM »

Well, there's another Republican on the list of presidential nominees who will make me back Hillary.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 06:19:44 AM »

Well, there's another Republican on the list of presidential nominees who will make me back Hillary.

On the contrary, I think I back him even more! Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 12:24:08 PM »

The first time I've ever remotely agreed with anything he's said.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 01:55:24 PM »

Well he's right. Divided government is terrible. Of course, total teabag control of undivided government is also terrible.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 02:00:12 PM »

Well, there's another Republican on the list of presidential nominees who will make me back Hillary.

Hillary operates the same way. If you want your policy agenda enacted quickly, you need your party unified behind you and in control. Just a fact.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 04:54:15 PM »

I'd much prefer an effective transactional president who acknowledges the reality of the situation and tries to work within the system to get things done rather than accept the obstruction. It's not impossible, it just takes a leader instead of an idealogue. Bill Clinton did it. Obama says he has bended over backwards to comprise, yet we've seen nothing of it. Meanwhile he can send Joe Biden into the thick of it and have him come out with a deal in days. It's about style.

If you ask me, no voter should expect to get everything they want from their candidate if he or she happens to win. The expectation should be give-and-take. I've always said that it shouldn't matter who the president is, because all voters, Democrats and Republicans, should expect, at the end of the day, that a compromise centrist approach will be taken. That is what the system is supposed to yield.

I'm all for trying win the House, Senate, and presidency. But if that's not going to happen, it would be nice to have a president who doesn't give up, assign blame, or push back. Scott Walker is openly declaring that should he win he will be part of the problem. How on Earth is that good? Obviously Hillary would love to have both houses of government on her side too, but her sheer experience dealing with Washington will, I think, have taught her that it's important to reach out. And if she hasn't come to that conclusion on her own, Bill will give her head a shake.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 08:57:19 PM »

Perry had this message in 2012
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 09:10:53 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2013, 08:24:54 AM by pbrower2a »

Unified government? What the Hell is that? The dominant Party regulates the other?

It's been done. The old East Germany. No thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 02:01:00 AM »

Imagine how badly Obama would be skewered in the media if he said this.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 11:33:35 AM »

Imagine how badly Obama would be skewered in the media if he said this.

In all fairness, he doesn't need waste time saying it. Wink

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 02:30:46 PM »

Well, there's another Republican on the list of presidential nominees who will make me back Hillary.

On the contrary, I think I back him even more! Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2013, 01:29:37 PM »

I'd much prefer an effective transactional president who acknowledges the reality of the situation and tries to work within the system to get things done rather than accept the obstruction. It's not impossible, it just takes a leader instead of an idealogue. Bill Clinton did it. Obama says he has bended over backwards to comprise, yet we've seen nothing of it.

You need a new pair of glasses.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2013, 02:49:31 PM »

Scott Walker 2016: "I'm an a$$hole, but I'll be your a$$hole."
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2013, 03:37:11 PM »

I find his honesty refreshing even if his policies are repugnant. Sincerity is such an underrated character trait.
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2013, 04:07:24 PM »

I'd much prefer an effective transactional president who acknowledges the reality of the situation and tries to work within the system to get things done rather than accept the obstruction. It's not impossible, it just takes a leader instead of an idealogue. Bill Clinton did it. Obama says he has bended over backwards to comprise, yet we've seen nothing of it.

You need a new pair of glasses.

Apparently proposing the Republican healthcare reform of the 90s as a STARTING negotiating position doesn't qualify.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2013, 01:06:47 AM »

I find his honesty refreshing even if his policies are repugnant. Sincerity is such an underrated character trait.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2013, 06:18:59 AM »

I find his honesty refreshing even if his policies are repugnant. Sincerity is such an underrated character trait.

Agreed. The problem is that if you are looking like it this way, the other party won't have to work with you either. That makes government even more inefficient.
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2013, 04:13:39 PM »

This is a message we need to hear more. When we hear it from Republicans, it means they're being honest about what they're already doing.  When we hear it from Democrats, it means they're starting to grow a spine.
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2013, 07:23:52 PM »

In his defense, try being a Republican in Madison and think you can work across the aisle. It won't last all that long.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2013, 07:47:06 PM »

That might be true to an extent, but lots voters don't like to hear that sort of talk, it comes off as divisive. That aside, Walker didn't exactly come to the table with a bipartisan agenda, the collective bargaining changes were very divisive.
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