Social Issue Policy

[Gass3268]

Gambling - Legalize nationwide
Marijuana - Legalize nationwide for those over 18
Abortion - Right to choose until birth, exclusion of federal funds for abortion should be removed
Stem cell research - 100% support and it should be expanded
Death penalty - 100% opposition, I also oppose life imprisonment in many situations
Gun control - Repeal the 2nd Amendment, go from there
Affirmative action - Support (Not a racist)
Smoking bans- Support, age to buy should be moved up to 21
Amnesty - Welcome to the United States right now!
In God We Trust- Oppose, national motto should be 'e pluribus unum'
Under God- oppose, there should be no pledge of allegiance in schools.
School vouchers- Banned along with all non-public schools, homeschooling allowed in only select situations.

[Miles]

Gay marriage: Support
Gambling: Mostly Support
Marijuana: Oppose
Abortion: Oppose except for mother’s life
Stem cell research: Support
Death penalty: Oppose
Gun control: Manchin-Toomey
Affirmative action: Oppose
Smoking bans: Support
Amnesty: Oppose
In God We Trust: Strongly Support
Under God: Strongly Support
School vouchers: Strongly Oppose

[morgieb]

Gay marriage: Support.
Gambling: Support and regulated. Don't ban it if regulation cannot be enforced though.
Marijuana: Support and regulated. I also support this mechanism for most drugs tbh.
Abortion: Support up to point of viability. Only legal in the case of mother's life or some other extreme circumstance after that.
Stem cell research: Support.
Death penalty: Oppose.
Gun control: Mixed. Tend to support the Second Amendment in rural areas, but be more restrictive in urban areas.
Affirmative action: Mixed. Tend to support more on basis of income rather than gender.
Smoking bans: Support, but leave it up to business and don't ban it outside.
Amnesty: Support, assuming they've lived here for a long time, are employed, etc. Oppose mass deportations.
In God We Trust: Don't care, support the right to express religion
Under God: Ditto.
School vouchers: Somewhat oppose. Perhaps only in extreme circumstances.

[PJ]

Death penalty for drug dealing.

Seriously?

whats so unreasonable about that. 'human rights' are for humans. someone dealing meth or crack is pretty much subhuman as far as i'm concerned.

Someone's desperate addiction does not make them 'sub-human.'

[courts]

Death penalty for drug dealing.

Seriously?

whats so unreasonable about that. 'human rights' are for humans. someone dealing meth or crack is pretty much subhuman as far as i'm concerned.

Someone's desperate addiction does not make them 'sub-human.'

>implying all dealers are users. and even if they were, if anything that makes them even worse. not just an addict but creating and profiting off new addicts. pure cancer

[barfbag]

Gambling - Legalize nationwide
Marijuana - Legalize nationwide for those over 18
Abortion - Right to choose until birth, exclusion of federal funds for abortion should be removed
Stem cell research - 100% support and it should be expanded
Death penalty - 100% opposition, I also oppose life imprisonment in many situations
Gun control - Repeal the 2nd Amendment, go from there
Affirmative action - Support (Not a racist)
Smoking bans- Support, age to buy should be moved up to 21
Amnesty - Welcome to the United States right now!
In God We Trust- Oppose, national motto should be 'e pluribus unum'
Under God- oppose, there should be no pledge of allegiance in schools.
School vouchers- Banned along with all non-public schools, homeschooling allowed in only select situations.

Don't you think banning private schools takes away from our freedoms? As for amnesty I support it for those who haven't committed crimes and have paid their taxes. Are you willing to pay higher taxes for services for them? Do you think we should let illegal citizens here who have charges of rape on U.S. soil while they weren't supposed to be here? How would you explain that to your supporters in the feminist crowd? What's so bad about the pledge of allegiance that you oppose it in schools? You mentioned that you're not a racist when you said you support affirmative action. I also support affirmative action, but does it mean one is automatically a racist if they don't? There are many minorities who oppose the policy. Are they racist? What do you think of the University of Michigan awarding more admissions points for being a minority than having a perfect SAT score? Is race more important than the SAT's? I'm against the death penalty like you are, but if someone close to you was murdered would you be against their life imprisonment? According to you what constitutes one deserving life in prison? Again, how would you explain to feminists that a rapist with multiple offenses lives a life worth more than prison? Also, can you please give a solid explanation to why you think marijuana should be legal at 18, but cigarettes not until 21? It's almost like you're thinking backwards with it.

[courts]

Death penalty for drug dealing.

Seriously?

whats so unreasonable about that. 'human rights' are for humans. someone dealing meth or crack is pretty much subhuman as far as i'm concerned.

Someone's desperate addiction does not make them 'sub-human.'

>implying all dealers are users. and even if they were, if anything that makes them even worse. not just an addict but creating and profiting off new addicts. pure cancer

Even if these policies worked and the death penalty for users/dealers completely eradicated meth and crack use from the country people looking for escape and oblivion will find it another way.  Perhaps we would see an epidemic of alcoholism like we haven’t seen since the 19th and early 20th centuries.  Or more dangerous and insidious drugs created.  Even if those possible scenarios are worth the risk, it doesn’t solve the larger economic and social problems that drive these people to such addictions and the end certainly doesn’t justify the means.  But if you can’t see how the policies you’re claiming to support are just as sociopathic as anything a radical libertarian would like to implement I think you need to seriously take a step back and reevaluate your conclusions.   

i said nothing about the death penalty for users. i said that i considered drug dealers to be subhuman and that i really couldn't blame someone for wanting them dead. i know that i do. substance abuse across the board is more of an issue, yes. i don't disagree that it's a symptom of the ongoing disintegration and general anomie of american society. but that's all kind of besides the point.

[afleitch]

I think the term subhuman is better directed at genocidal dictators than street corner drug dealers.

[ElectionsGuy]

I think the term subhuman is better directed at genocidal dictators than street corner drug dealers.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Every human is human, period.

[courts]

Every human is human, period.

sorry but when people commit certain crimes it's almost better for my sanity to not view them as much more than rabid animals. you want me to view someone who lit an old lady on fire in an elevator for laughs or who raped and tortured little girls in their basement as being *equally* worthy of life as you or me? and you're offended by what i said?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Every human is human, period.

sorry but when people commit certain crimes it's almost better for my sanity to not view them as much more than rabid animals. you want me to view someone who lit an old lady on fire in an elevator for laughs or who raped and tortured little girls in their basement as being *equally* worthy of life as you or me? and you're offended by what i said?

I'm sorry for your sanity, but yeah. Human dignity is cheap if you can exclude people at will.

[Marnetmar]

Gay marriage- Legalize nationwide
Gambling- undecided
Marijuana- Leave it up to the states for now, legalize nationwide when the GOP doesn't have control of congress
Abortion- First trimester
Stem cell research- Support
Death penalty- Abolish it.
Gun control- Oppose
Affirmative action- Undecided
Smoking bans- Support
Amnesty- Support
In God We Trust- Neutral
Under God- Neutral
School vouchers- Oppose

[Repub242]

My social policy.
1.Abolish abortion, except when the mother's life is at risk.
2.Abolish the death penalty
3.Make marriage between one man and one woman only, no civil unions.
4.Expand the war on drugs
5.Keep prostitution illegal, and enforce it vigorously.
6.No federal funding for stem cell research.
7.No affirmative action

[TNF]

gay marriage- abolish marriage.
gambling- make it legal and stack the deck in favor of the working class. nationalize the industry.
marijuana- support, marijuana is awesome. legalize for over 16s. nationalize production.
abortion- support right to choose until birth on demand and 100% state-funded
stem cell research- support, but jesus christ this is 2013 who f**king cares at this point
death penalty- oppose, and also oppose life imprisonment/most imprisonment.
gun control- vehemently oppose. nationalize the arms industry.
affirmative action- support only on an economic basis. guarantee everyone a job and the right to a higher education free of charge and this isn't going to be an issue.
smoking bans- oppose. reduce smoking age to 16. nationalize big tobacco.
amnesty- for whom? open borders with Canada and Mexico
In God We Trust- oppose, national motto should be 'e pluribus unum' 'workers of the world, unite!'
Under God- oppose, there should be no pledge of allegiance in schools
school vouchers- ban, and ban all non-public schools

[TNF]

Just want to pop in to point out how funny it is that all the liberals are bending over backwards in this thread to oppose the execution of persons who literally exist for the sole purpose of getting people addicted to their product and then holding that over said person for cash. There's certainly a difference between a low-level Cannabis dealer looking for quick cash and a big time heroin smuggler, and that's something we should recognize, but to say that the latter isn't anything other than a disgusting parasite that thrives upon (and preys upon) those who need a fix is pretty insane.

Then again, I guess that should really come as no surprise, given that liberals support capitalism, which is the same kind of parasitism on a massive scale. Like drug dealers, capitalists create "needs" that only they can fulfill, and coincidentally just happen to make them filthy f[inks]ing rich.

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Just want to pop in to point out how funny it is that all the liberals are bending over backwards in this thread to oppose the execution of persons who literally exist for the sole purpose of getting people addicted to their product and then holding that over said person for cash. There's certainly a difference between a low-level Cannabis dealer looking for quick cash and a big time heroin smuggler, and that's something we should recognize, but to say that the latter isn't anything other than a disgusting parasite that thrives upon (and preys upon) those who need a fix is pretty insane.

Then again, I guess that should really come as no surprise, given that liberals support capitalism, which is the same kind of parasitism on a massive scale. Like drug dealers, capitalists create "needs" that only they can fulfill, and coincidentally just happen to make them filthy f[inks]ing rich.

You understand this whole debate started over someone proposing blanket execution for "drug dealing", right?

So yes, both the big heroin king, and the small weed seller, would go to the gallows. And that's assuming the heroin king couldn't buy his freedom (which, given your constantly-touted socialist credentials, I'm surprised you didn't consider - you do believe in corruption, right?).

Anywho, I'll be borrowing Gass's template if he doesn't mind.

Gambling - Legalize nationwide and regulate it
Marijuana - Legalize nationwide for those over 18, treat it like alcohol
Abortion - Right to choose until birth, exclusion of federal funds for abortion should be removed
Stem cell research - 100% support and it should be expanded
Death penalty - Switch to inert gas asphyxiation in all cases
Gun control - Strict background checks, implement strong mental health care system, ban assault rifles for civilian use, implement waiting periods.
Affirmative action - Support (Not a racist)
Smoking bans- Prohibit smoking in public areas. Make smoking around children a criminal offense.
Amnesty - Blanket amnesty, streamline the immigration process, cut down on the waiting times needed to enter/become a citizen.
In God We Trust- Oppose, national motto should be 'e pluribus unum'
Under God- oppose, there should be no pledge of allegiance in schools.
School vouchers- Totally nationalize education.

[TNF]

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Given that mint is a socialist as well, I don't think said heroin king would be able to buy his freedom under the system that she's proposing here. Beyond that, a society that would actually consider executing those parasites is so far removed from the one in which we currently live so as to render this whole debate moot. People with money don't get put to death unless they steal from other people with money. That's how it works. The death penalty under capitalism is a means of perpetuating the system itself, which is why at present I don't consider myself a supporter of it. The point of my post was to point out how completely bizarre it is for people to agonize over the fate of people who do nothing but profit from the ruin of other people, their lives, and the destruction of whole communities.

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

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Given that mint is a socialist as well, I don't think said heroin king would be able to buy his freedom under the system that she's proposing here. Beyond that, a society that would actually consider executing those parasites is so far removed from the one in which we currently live so as to render this whole debate moot. People with money don't get put to death unless they steal from other people with money. That's how it works. The death penalty under capitalism is a means of perpetuating the system itself, which is why at present I don't consider myself a supporter of it. The point of my post was to point out how completely bizarre it is for people to agonize over the fate of people who do nothing but profit from the ruin of other people, their lives, and the destruction of whole communities.

Because usually the people who demand blanket execution for drug dealing aren't radical socialists who want to eliminate "parasites" (never mind that you'd only be taking out ONE kind of exploitation, assuming no heroin king could buy their freedom). They're hard-right, populist social conservatives (FN, etc.) who're totally cool with capitalism until white Christians start getting the shaft. (And I'm being generous there; there's more than a decent chance the far-right populists in Europe are getting the tacit backing of the elites to distract the workers from economic issues with the F[INKS]IN GYPSIES AND FAGS AND IMMIGRANTS etc. etc. stump.)

Also who's mint, I'm looking at that quote pyramid right now; it's pretty clearly started by Cassius (if he's a socialist then Nelson Mandela is a white supremacist) and I don't see anybody else named "mint" taking part.

[Sol]

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Given that mint is a socialist as well, I don't think said heroin king would be able to buy his freedom under the system that she's proposing here. Beyond that, a society that would actually consider executing those parasites is so far removed from the one in which we currently live so as to render this whole debate moot. People with money don't get put to death unless they steal from other people with money. That's how it works. The death penalty under capitalism is a means of perpetuating the system itself, which is why at present I don't consider myself a supporter of it. The point of my post was to point out how completely bizarre it is for people to agonize over the fate of people who do nothing but profit from the ruin of other people, their lives, and the destruction of whole communities.

Because usually the people who demand blanket execution for drug dealing aren't radical socialists who want to eliminate "parasites" (never mind that you'd only be taking out ONE kind of exploitation, assuming no heroin king could buy their freedom). They're hard-right, populist social conservatives (FN, etc.) who're totally cool with capitalism until white Christians start getting the shaft. (And I'm being generous there; there's more than a decent chance the far-right populists in Europe are getting the tacit backing of the elites to distract the workers from economic issues with the F[INKS]IN GYPSIES AND FAGS AND IMMIGRANTS etc. etc. stump.)

Also who's mint, I'm looking at that quote pyramid right now; it's pretty clearly started by Cassius (if he's a socialist then Nelson Mandela is a white supremacist) and I don't see anybody else named "mint" taking part.

Mint=Ghost_White.

[Kushahontas]

Gay marriage: Support full national legalization
Gambling: unsure, leaning towards a no
Marijuana: Support with tax revenue going equally to K-12 education and infrastructure
Abortion: Support until birth, 24/7, with federal funds available should circumstance call for it
Stem cell research: Support
Death penalty: Oppose
Gun control: Support
Affirmative action: Support (lol...)
Smoking bans: Support outright ban on smoking in public (alongside hefty increase in cigarette taxes)
Amnesty: Unsure on the specifics but I do support a liberal immigration policy
In God We Trust: lol
Under God: k
School vouchers: Oppose

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Gambling - Legalize nationwide
Marijuana - Legalize nationwide
Prostitution - Legalize nationwide (I added this social issue too)
Abortion - Right to choose until fetus can survive outside the womb or mom's life in danger.
Stem cell research - Fully Support
Death penalty - Fully Support and needs to be used often enough so it is a deterrent.
Gun control - Other than the AWB and background checks, none.
Affirmative action - Oppose.
Smoking bans- Oppose.
Amnesty - Why the hell not?
In God We Trust- Who cares?
Under God- Who cares?
School vouchers- Support.

[The Dowager Mod]

Gambling - Leave it up to the states.
Marijuana - Leave it up to the states.
Prostitution - Ban nationwide.
Abortion - At any time during the pregnancy for any reason.
Stem cell research - Fully Support
Death penalty - Ban nationwide.
Gun control - Leave it up to the states.
Affirmative action - Still much needed unfortunately.
Smoking bans- Quadruple the tax on tobacco and ban smoking in all public areas.
Amnesty - Why the hell not?
In God We Trust- Nope.
Under God- Nope.
School vouchers- Vehemently oppose.

[H. Ross Peron]

Gambling - Should be legal but regulated
Marijuana - Legalize for over 18s
Prostitution - Keep it illegal, but prosecute the pimps
Abortion - Pro-Life under all circumstances except when mother's life is threatened
Stem cell research - Support
Death penalty - Support only in extremely heinous crimes when guilt is certain
Gun control - Universal background checks but otherwise status quo
Affirmative action - Ban all race-based affirmative action
Smoking bans- Ban smoking in public places and heavily tax it
Amnesty - Open up a process for citizenship for law-abiding illegal immigrants
In God We Trust- E pleuribius unum
Under God- Restore the original Pledge with the original Bellamy salute
School vouchers- No thanks. Strengthen public schools instead and forbid private schools to charge tuition
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[Ebowed]

Gambling - Illegal except in private settings
Marijuana - Legal
Prostitution - Legal
Abortion - Legal, no restrictions
Stem cell research - Fully funded
Death penalty - Abolished entirely
Gun control - Support all forms of gun control
Affirmative action - Support
Smoking bans- Support public smoking bans
Amnesty - Support
In God We Trust- Oppose
Under God- Oppose any pledge of allegiance
School vouchers- Oppose