SENATE BILL: Party Hard Amendment (Failed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Far too arbitrary. No definition of documentation and thus it would be defined by the Registrary most likely as to what did and did not count on a case by case basis. This would essential give the Registrar a blank check to dismantle a party on a bureaucratic whim, without any uniform, set standard involved.

[Fritz]

I agree with Yankee.  I don't want the power to decide which parties are "organized".  This will only lead to the RG being accused of making partisan decisions.

[PJ]

What if we simplify it to a party that has a platform, by-laws, and scheduled conventions?

[TNF]

Amendment is hostile. Three people is not a political party.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Major parties should be 10 members or more. The idea that anything less is a major party is a bit silly. Parties are created to organize ideas and win elections, and you cannot win an election with 3 people or even 5 people.

[Maxwell]

I agree with the idea of 3 people not being a party. 5 I think is passable.

[PJ]

How about this?

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well, any takers at this point with PJ's proposal?


If not, then is a final vote desired once again?

[TNF]

At this point I don't think passing this bill is productive. I'm ready for a final vote and would encourage the Senate to vote it down.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A final vote is now on open on the underlying legislation, Senators please vote Aye, Nay, Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[Maxwell]

Improvement is Improvement.

Aye

[President Tyrion]

Nay

[PPT Spiral]

Nay

[tmthforu94]

Aye

[Napoleon]

Abstain

[TNF]

Nay

Please put this thing to rest

[bore]

Aye

[Gass3268]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This has enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

[Maxwell]

It's crazy that it only takes 3 voters to make up a party, but oh well.

[Fritz]

Why are you all giving up on this?

[President Tyrion]

Why are you all giving up on this?

Parties are little more than a name until the members make it something. I'd rather give small groups a chance than not. It's not vital that parties be good, large, or elect people. If you have a group of individuals who share a common ideology, organize. It's no skin off my bones.

[tmthforu94]

In hindsight, I regret not having a discussion on PJ's final proposal - things are picking up for me (as I'm sure with a couple others) in school with finals just a few weeks away, and I'm currently in a battle with some professors to maintain my GPA. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to address his proposal before a final vote, but I would hope to get at least a bit of input before this thread is officially dead. I personally don't think the status quo should continue, and judging by comments made in this thread, it looks like a solid majority agree.

Personally, I am receptive to the idea - in this game, it might be better to have a party be judged by it's content and commitment, rather than simple numbers. I would be open to hearing arguments to that, of course.