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« on: October 23, 2013, 04:54:09 PM »

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Not good.

I wonder if this has a chance of passing both houses.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 05:00:22 PM »

I wonder if this has a chance of passing both houses.

It doesn't.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 05:04:05 PM »

What a piece of sh*t.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 05:05:23 PM »

And here I thought Manchina was improving. Sad
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 05:06:45 PM »

A year may be too long, but a six month delay may not be such a crazy idea if they can't get this durned website working.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 05:16:56 PM »

DINO, better kick him out of the party.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 05:18:50 PM »

I disagree with him on this issue.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 05:24:37 PM »

A year may be too long, but a six month delay may not be such a crazy idea if they can't get this durned website working.

That, I'll agree with.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 05:47:05 PM »

A year may be too long, but a six month delay may not be such a crazy idea if they can't get this durned website working.

That, I'll agree with.

This. Joe Manchin is still starting to sour on me really quickly. It's a shame, I used to really like him.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 07:02:19 PM »

A year may be too long, but a six month delay may not be such a crazy idea if they can't get this durned website working.

IIRC six months out of 12 is all you have to be enrolled for to meet the mandate, so this is already in effect.

Also, Manchin continues to be a joke Democrat who should be expelled from the caucus.  It's actually much worse to have insiders chipping away at Obamacare than outsiders.  Without the individual mandate, Obamacare falls apart like a house of cards.  Even worse, it's too late to change prices for next year, which were all calculated with the assumption that the individual mandate would be in place.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2013, 07:16:35 PM »

Not really news, Manchin has always been opposed to the individual mandate. Luckily the other 54 Democratic Senators are not idiots who don't understand how health insurance works, so this won't go anywhere.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 07:35:12 PM »

A year may be too long, but a six month delay may not be such a crazy idea if they can't get this durned website working.

IIRC six months out of 12 is all you have to be enrolled for to meet the mandate, so this is already in effect.

Also, Manchin continues to be a joke Democrat who should be expelled from the caucus.  It's actually much worse to have insiders chipping away at Obamacare than outsiders.  Without the individual mandate, Obamacare falls apart like a house of cards.  Even worse, it's too late to change prices for next year, which were all calculated with the assumption that the individual mandate would be in place.

But are the policies priced so that you can buy it for only six months and not be charged for the whole year?   

We have no idea how long this exchange problem is going to take before it's fixed.  The adverse selection could happen even without the delay in the individual mandate, since the people most motivated to go through finding a health insurance policy the old fashioned way are the ones who wanted a policy before but couldn't afford it or were denied because of pre-existing conditions.  The entire law (what's not been implemented already) should be delayed until at least 3 months after the exchange gets fixed.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013, 08:30:17 PM »


Why?
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 08:55:14 PM »

He seems like someone who wants to be chased out of the party, so he can make "The Democratic Party left me!" election speeches after he switches parties, and maybe get a lucrative book deal out of it, too. He's probably annoyed his fellow Dems aren't more upset with him yet.
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2013, 09:03:24 PM »

Manchin seems like a Maine Republican. Take what you can get out of the state guys.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 09:10:02 PM »

A year may be too long, but a six month delay may not be such a crazy idea if they can't get this durned website working.

IIRC six months out of 12 is all you have to be enrolled for to meet the mandate, so this is already in effect.

Also, Manchin continues to be a joke Democrat who should be expelled from the caucus.  It's actually much worse to have insiders chipping away at Obamacare than outsiders.  Without the individual mandate, Obamacare falls apart like a house of cards.  Even worse, it's too late to change prices for next year, which were all calculated with the assumption that the individual mandate would be in place.

^THIS.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2013, 09:15:51 PM »

He seems like someone who wants to be chased out of the party, so he can make "The Democratic Party left me!" election speeches after he switches parties, and maybe get a lucrative book deal out of it, too. He's probably annoyed his fellow Dems aren't more upset with him yet.

What makes you say this about him?
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2013, 10:52:47 PM »

Great, now FOX can talk about how "Senate Democrats now discussing Obamacare mandate extension."

Manchin is such a POS.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2013, 10:54:21 PM »

Great, now FOX can talk about how "Senate Democrats now discussing Obamacare mandate extension."

Manchin is such a POS.

Why do you have a blue avatar? Or are you mocking the other party?
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2013, 10:56:05 PM »

Great, now FOX can talk about how "Senate Democrats now discussing Obamacare mandate extension."

Manchin is such a POS.

Why do you have a blue avatar? Or are you mocking the other party?

I like the color blue.
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2013, 11:25:00 PM »

I'd like a bill to delay Joe Manchin.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2013, 06:09:32 AM »

I'd like a bill to delay Joe Manchin.

There is never going to be an appropriate time in the future for Joe Manchin.
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2013, 09:58:40 AM »

Great, now FOX can talk about how "Senate Democrats now discussing Obamacare mandate extension."

Manchin is such a POS.

Why do you have a blue avatar? Or are you mocking the other party?

I like the color blue.

So are you a Democrat or Independent?
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2013, 10:09:46 AM »

Great, now FOX can talk about how "Senate Democrats now discussing Obamacare mandate extension."

Manchin is such a POS.

Why do you have a blue avatar? Or are you mocking the other party?

I like the color blue.

So are you a Democrat or Independent?

He is a Blue Dog.............., obviously.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2013, 03:02:25 PM »

Great, now FOX can talk about how "Senate Democrats now discussing Obamacare mandate extension."

Manchin is such a POS.

Why do you have a blue avatar? Or are you mocking the other party?

I like the color blue.

So are you a Democrat or Independent?

He is a Blue Dog.............., obviously.

I don't think it's that obvious. Not since I've been here for the last year and half, anyway.
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