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Fusion Caucus: President DeWitt Clinton of New York
 
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Republican Caucus: Former President James Monroe of Virginia
 
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Republican Caucus: Former Senator Andrew Jackson of Tennessee
 
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Republican Caucus: Governor William Clark of Illinois
 
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Republican Caucus: Former Vice President Albert Gallatin
 
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Republican Caucus: Former Governor Daniel D. Tompkins of New York
 
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Republican Caucus: Speaker of the House Henry Clay of Kentucky
 
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Republican Caucus: Governor Thomas Mann Randolph, Jr. of Virginia
 
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Federalist Caucus: Vice President John Marshall of Virginia
 
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Federalist Caucus: Secretary of State John Quincy Adams of Massachusetts
 
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Federalist Caucus: Senator Rufus King of New York
 
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Federalist Caucus: Former U.S. Minister to the United Kingdom Richard Rush of Pennsylvania
 
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Federalist Caucus: Former Congressman Jacobus "James" Roosevelt of New York
 
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Federalist Caucus: Former Governor Daniel Rodney of Delaware
 
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Federalist Caucus: Former Senator Robert Goodloe Harper of Maryland
 
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Federalist Caucus: President DeWitt Clinton of New York
 
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« on: October 17, 2013, 04:01:34 PM »
« edited: October 17, 2013, 04:23:50 PM by Feudalcon »

Over the past four years, DeWitt Clinton has managed to forge a new path for the Fusion Party. Ironically, it strikes a bit of a contrast with the political organization his uncle founded. Building on his record in New York City, Clinton has expanded internal improvements and has heavily supported the Erie Canal construction. On tariffs, in accordance with the traditional--an ironic term for so young a party--Fusion policy, he has managed to maintain their already low levels and has, in order to afford domestic expansion, cut back the Navy's budget. To waylay fears by supporters of industry in regard to his tariff policy, he has made movements to subsidize domestic industry, though far short of what the Federalists are calling for. Meanwhile, in social policy, he has done little to interfere with any sort of emancipation in the North and is believed to be in support. He has, as well, been lax with in immigration policy and has been in support of an expanded voting franchise.

Rising to stand against President Clinton are a diverse team of Republicans. Ranging from the wily Andrew Jackson to the much more favorable Henry Clay, all are hoping that they can stop what appears to be the Clinton juggernaut. Jackson strikes a grand contrast with Clinton but his associations with Southern plantation owners are worrisome to those who believe the sun is setting on the American South for political influence. Instead, some have turned to a national hero of equal prominence and who lacks several of Jackson's skeletons and personality issues. William Clark, since his iconic expedition with the late Meriwether Lewis, has seen a successful career in both military and political circles, governing various territories throughout the West, finally being elected Illinois' first Governor after years of service along the Mississippi. He stands for several of the same principles as Jackson, including universal white male suffrage and has the military experience to go toe-to-toe with Old Hickory. His supporters are hoping that he can be a more palatable and unifying figure than last year's loser Jackson. As well, of course, is James Monroe. The President who failed to be re-nominated by his own party, he is hoping that the Republicans will turn back to the one man who last led them to victory. On  the opposite end of the party from Jackson and Clark is Henry Clay. A party leader for the last eight years from Kentucky, several are accusing Clay of being too close with President Clinton, both personally and politically. However, it is this quality which  many are hoping could allow him to triumph over the popular Clinton. Thrown in the field as well are the last Republican Vice President, Albert Gallatin, 1816's VP nominee Daniel Tompkins, and the closest thing to a political "descendant" the ailing former President Jefferson has: Virginia Governor Thomas Mann Randolph, Jr.

The Federalists, for their part, seem to be playing third string to the popular Clinton and the diverse Republican field. Nevertheless, despite efforts by some in the party to merely nominate Clinton for re-election, they have their own potential stalwarts to choose from. The most obvious choice is, naturally, Vice President Marshall. The staunchly conservative and nationalist Virginian, at different points an attorney, judge, Congressman, Senator, War Secretary, and now Vice President, is a prime example of the Federalist Old Guard. Accompanying him is, naturally, former President and Secretary of State Adams who--due to his inclusion in the administration--is not actively pursuing the nomination this time around and yet is being pushed by a core group of supporters. Rufus King, a man that has stood in both spots on the ticket in the past and recently rejoined the ticket, is of course being looked at. Among newer faces to the national stage are former Ambassador Richard Rush and former Congressman James Roosevelt.



List of Presidents Thus Far
1. John Jay (Federalist-New York) March 4th, 1789-March 4th, 1793
2. Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia) March 4th, 1793-March 4th, 1805
3. George Clinton (Independent Republican/Fusion-New York) March 4th, 1805-April 20th, 1812
4. John Quincy Adams (Federalist-Massachusetts) April 20th, 1812-March 4th, 1813
5. James Monroe (Republican-Virginia) March 4th, 1813-March 4th, 1817
6. DeWitt Clinton (Fusion-New York) March 4th, 1817-Present

List of Vice Presidents Thus Far
1. John Adams (Federalist-Massachusetts) March 4th, 1789-March 4th, 1793
2. John Jay (Federalist-New York) March 4th, 1793-March 4th, 1801
3. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) March 4th, 1801-April 2nd, 1802
Vacant: April 2nd, 1802-March 4th, 1805
4. James Monroe (Republican-Virginia) March 4th, 1805-March 4th, 1809
5. John Quincy Adams (Federalist-Massachusetts) March 4th, 1809-April 20th, 1812
Vacant: April 20th, 1812-March 4th, 1813
6. Albert Gallatin (Republican-Pennsylvania) March 4th, 1813-March 4th, 1817
7. John Marshall (Federalist-Virginia) March 4th, 1817-Present
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 04:05:34 PM »

Gallatin!
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 04:15:18 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 04:22:05 PM »

Given that the Fusion Party has never had its own Vice President, I'll provide a few names so you know who these people are, as I've largely been lazy with providing a deep bench for the party, due to the presence of the Clintons, mostly.

Potential "Fusion" party Vice Presidential nominees:
-Governor William King of Maine
-Former Governor William Plumer of New Hampshire (a former Federalist, JQA supporter, and critic of the "wasteful extravagance" of the Clinton administration)
-Governor Allen Trimble of Ohio
-Congressman Thomas Metcalf of Kentucky
-Governor Oliver Wolcott, Jr. of Connecticut

It should be noted that A) Should Clinton be nominated by the Federalists as well, it would likely result in the folding and combining of the parties around a much more... "Whigesque" platform than its roots. B) Western "Fusions" are much more like the Whigs of the RL 1830's and 1840's, while North-Eastern Fusions resemble more of the Free Soil type Democrats. Two different ideological pieces in the same party. Clinton has basically been the bridge between the two, being from New York but having policies more in line with the "Clayesque" Western Fusions. There are, of course, exceptions to this dichotomy, exemplified largely by former Federalists in the Fusion ranks such as Wolcott and Plumer.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 04:35:09 PM »

Clinton/Metcalf
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 04:48:35 PM »


This.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2013, 05:04:50 PM »

My fellow Mon Valley resident Albert Gallatin.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2013, 05:33:53 PM »

Clinton/Adams.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2013, 07:00:20 PM »

Clark.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 07:17:11 PM »

Clinton/Adams. Federalist/Fusion fusion!
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 07:45:19 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2013, 09:12:08 AM »
« Edited: October 18, 2013, 09:17:28 AM by Assemblyman Mr. X »

DeWitt Clinton/John Quincy Adams

Edit: Btw, is there a thread that has all the maps and descriptions of the campaigns for this series like there was for your previous one?
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2013, 12:00:46 PM »

If this keeps up I'm going to feel like the official assistant or something Tongue

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178971.0
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2013, 01:20:32 AM »

John Marshall
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2013, 09:15:46 AM »

Federalist/Clinton.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2013, 06:43:18 PM »

I'm thinking it'll be Clinton/Adams vs. Clark/Some Northerner. Will post the GE later tonight.
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