Who do you blame more for the shutdown?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I think it's pretty obvious, but I'm curious to see how AF members (specifically our blue avatars) vote.

[Marokai Backbeat]

The party that is actually instigating the shutdown.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

The Republicans, DUH!  Idiots.

[ElectionsGuy]

If I could choose both parties I would choose that, but Obama and his colleagues don't want to negotiate on anything when it comes to debt ceiling, he said it clear and loud. In the late 1990's, I would have blamed the republicans because Clinton actually cared about making things work in bipartisan ways, even if it was tough. Because of that I'm Lean Obama/Democrats (R).

I'm expecting it to be a 3-1 or a 4-1 blame on republicans though. All D's will say republicans, 80-90% of I's will say republicans, and about half of R's will say republicans.

[memphis]

As I've said multiple times, Obama deserves some blame because he's bargained with these terrorists before. But, obviously, the Republicans are more to blame. It's their damn shutdown...

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

But, but...the tiny blue Michigans... 

I'll be back to my usual blue avatar when this whole thing's over.  Until then, my support is with the sane party.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

As I've said multiple times, Obama deserves some blame because he's bargained with these terrorists before. But, obviously, the Republicans are more to blame. It's their damn shutdown...

Agreed, which is why he really needs to stand firm now.  The longer this goes, the better for the nation, because it will lead to the purge of the crazies.  If the Peter Kings win out now, they'll just get blasted by the Cruzes and we won't learn our lesson.  If this actually harms the economy, the crazies won't be able to do this again, and we'll be better off.  At this point, we need to hit rock bottom.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

It's 2011 all over again: Instead of a simple continuting resolution, they just had to tie defunding Obamacare to it.


The PPACA was a big issue in the 2012 elections, and Republicans lost. They are sore losers and refuse to accept it.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Truly a highlight in AF history.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Truly a highlight in AF history.

It' happened before.

[Zioneer]

It is obviously the Republicans fault, because they are to blame for trying a dirty trick to repeal a law that has been okayed by Congress, the Supreme Court, signed by the President, AND been validated by the vote of the American people.

[t_host1]

The United States Citizens, a requirement from time to time.

[publicunofficial]

The party that only cares about the shutdown because they're afraid of getting blamed for it.

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As I've said multiple times, Obama deserves some blame because he's bargained with these terrorists before. But, obviously, the Republicans are more to blame. It's their damn shutdown...

True, his idiocy in 2011 emboldened Congressional Republicans to make even more extortions.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Rethuglicans (D)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The tea party. The most dangerous force in American politics.

[Indy Texas]

"Ted Cruz" ought to be a separate option in this poll.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

"Ted Cruz" ought to be a separate option in this poll.

Meh.  Ted Cruz only has the influence he does because the Republicans let him have it.

[Indy Texas]

"Ted Cruz" ought to be a separate option in this poll.

Meh.  Ted Cruz only has the influence he does because the Republicans let him have it.

The Republicans let him have it because the Republican primary voters will tear them to pieces otherwise. How would you like to have to answer to those asylum inmates?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

"Ted Cruz" ought to be a separate option in this poll.

Meh.  Ted Cruz only has the influence he does because the Republicans let him have it.

The Republicans let him have it because the Republican primary voters will tear them to pieces otherwise. How would you like to have to answer to those asylum inmates?

Well, I could go into a long speech about the importance of courage and integrity in politics, but I doubt it will make much of a difference.   The bottom line is that Republicans have only themselves to blame for this, and the kooks who got them in power should be kicking themselves right now... but they won't.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Rethuglicans (D)

You've been Facebooking Jamespol too much, I see...

[Maxwell]

"Ted Cruz" ought to be a separate option in this poll.

If the party weren't filled with so many spineless fools and boneheads, they wouldn't be dragged by the nose every couple of years by Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck. A party led by fads and celebrities can not stand. This should be a god damn wake up call to these retards.

[Indy Texas]

"Ted Cruz" ought to be a separate option in this poll.

If the party weren't filled with so many spineless fools and boneheads, they wouldn't be dragged by the nose every couple of years by Ted Cruz or Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck. A party led by fads and celebrities can not stand. This should be a god damn wake up call to these retards.

"Most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil."
-Hannah Arendt

[Sopranos Republican]

Option 5, and the avatar change is at least temporarily, not just a joke.

[DrScholl]

Republicans, because they are very aware that their demands were not going to be met. Besides, the shutdown doesn't even stop Obamacare, so it's a moot point.