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« on: August 16, 2013, 11:30:09 AM »

I feel like the more we continue to label and divide people into these 'groups', the more issues we are going to have with race.

Identifying someone based on their race, gender, etc only serves to heighten the divides between people. Furthermore, it attempts to favor groups in the workplace or in the university simply because of their superficial characteristics, which ultimately means someone else is losing the zero sum game.

Political correctness IMO is just another one of these nasty collectivist ideas that, like racism attempts to divide and harm relations between people in the US. We are all Americans and should all be judged based on our actions, not external things we have no control over. We should strive towards a society with no laws restricting the freedoms of any group, we are getting very close to this, so therefor, opportunity will be available to all. 

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 11:38:43 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 12:02:13 PM »

"political correctness"
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 02:38:12 PM »

No. Ignoring race/gender/sexual orientation isn't going to make discrimination go away. That's not how it has ever worked.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 02:41:30 PM »

We should strive towards a society with no laws restricting the freedoms of any group, we are getting very close to this, so therefor, opportunity will be available to all. 

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What utter rot.  But I suppose that's what right wingers believe. 

But here's the fact, CTrat.:

There's no freedom in America.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 05:43:40 PM »

Um...no. To every single post so far.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 06:02:50 PM »

No. Quit trolling.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 07:15:44 PM »

Mods pls rename thread to: "Straight white male: 'Why do people make such a big deal about race???'" thx
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 07:28:29 PM »

Mods pls rename thread to: "Straight white male: 'Why do people make such a big deal about race???'" thx

Yup.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 07:43:17 PM »

I feel like the more we continue to label and divide people into these 'groups', the more issues we are going to have with race.

Identifying someone based on their race, gender, etc only serves to heighten the divides between people. Furthermore, it attempts to favor groups in the workplace or in the university simply because of their superficial characteristics, which ultimately means someone else is losing the zero sum game.

Political correctness IMO is just another one of these nasty collectivist ideas that, like racism attempts to divide and harm relations between people in the US. We are all Americans and should all be judged based on our actions, not external things we have no control over. We should strive towards a society with no laws restricting the freedoms of any group, we are getting very close to this, so therefor, opportunity will be available to all. 

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I pretty much agree here. I don't think it necessarily increases "racism" (we are becoming a less racist nation by the day) but I do think it makes more of a polarized and divided nation which never does us any good.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 09:38:49 PM »

I don't know that it increases racism. It does increase stupidity by not allowing humans to use judgment.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 09:42:31 PM »

I feel like the more we continue to label and divide people into these 'groups', the more issues we are going to have with race.


And, would you mind to explain, what IS (according to you) political "correctness"? Because I have a hard time understanding what you mean by it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 09:46:47 PM »

I feel like the more we continue to label and divide people into these 'groups', the more issues we are going to have with race.


And, would you mind to explain, what IS (according to you) political "correctness"? Because I have a hard time understanding what you mean by it.

Political correctness is regulated speech which doesn't offend Democrats.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 10:08:55 PM »

I feel like the more we continue to label and divide people into these 'groups', the more issues we are going to have with race.

Identifying someone based on their race, gender, etc only serves to heighten the divides between people. Furthermore, it attempts to favor groups in the workplace or in the university simply because of their superficial characteristics, which ultimately means someone else is losing the zero sum game.

Let's begin with the obvious -- it is grossly impolite to use derogatory words about people based upon gender, race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation. If you are to call someone a bitch, then make sure that she barks and either has (or has had) the potential to give birth to puppies. Use some of those words in my classroom and you might have some explaining to do to the principal because I will refer you. Those are fighting words as nasty as F--- you (which as I understand it usually means "Get raped!", although I once heard a pair of gays at college using them so gently that I had no objection to them in that context).   

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That some people still act out of bigotry indicates that we need concern ourselves with basic politeness. I have experienced some nasty anti-gay and anti-Jewish bigotry, and I am neither gay nor Jewish. The Golden Rule still applies, so if you would not be saddled with deprecatory descriptions, then do not saddle others with them.


Oh, yes -- there is much ambiguity about some of these identifications. Is someone with an Irish father and a Mexican-American mother "Hispanic"? I would have never figured that Mariah Carey is black until I was told so and shown a picture of her father. Soledad O'Brien? Much the same.

It is best that we heed the advice of the great Dr. Martin Luther King and judge people by their character instead of by their color. But judgment on the basis of character can be harsh even if well deserved. Use bigoted language and your suspect character is exposed. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 11:00:09 PM »

There's a lot of youth nowadays that for whatever reason seem to believe language shouldn't mean as much as it does, especially since the connotations and meanings of words change so much over the years. For that reason, they often find an excuse to use said bigoted terms. But in the end, that's just what it is -- an excuse.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2013, 11:07:47 PM »

I think political correctness is a distraction from focusing on institutional bigotry and social segregation.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2013, 11:28:30 PM »

Mods pls rename thread to: "Straight white male: 'Why do people make such a big deal about race???'" thx

Can you take your hateful views somewhere else please, we all know you're racist, no need to provide us with more evidence.
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2013, 11:48:28 PM »

Mods pls rename thread to: "Straight white male: 'Why do people make such a big deal about race???'" thx

Can you take your hateful views somewhere else please, we all know you're racist, no need to provide us with more evidence.

Nothing about what I posted there is racist. Stop projecting.
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2013, 05:40:12 AM »

I think political correctness is a distraction from focusing on institutional bigotry and social segregation.
ding ding ding...we have a winner.  The recreational outrage over things (like the rodeo clown) makes a certain type of person feel like they're "helping"...or something.  I'm not sure what they get out of it actually.  It's probably something in their subconscious though. 

"I can't be racist...see how offended I'm acting over this!?  I sure feel better about myself now.  Look at all those racists trying to say this isn't a big deal.  Racism is clearly still alive and well and out in the open in this country!"
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2013, 10:01:23 AM »

Mods pls rename thread to: "Straight white male: 'Why do people make such a big deal about race???'" thx

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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2013, 06:12:34 PM »

Being racially sensitive promotes racism. Got it. Roll Eyes

Where do libertarians learn this nonsense?

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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2013, 06:47:24 PM »

Political incorrectness (not racist): How do you remove one thousand flies in one motion? Slap an Ethopian in the face.

Factual incorrectness (racist): Everyone on welfare is a black whore with 5 kids who sits on a porch and does nothing all day while I work.

Political incorrectness (not racist): How many black people does it take to screw in a lightbulb? The lights are out, how can you count them?

Factual incorrectness (racist): Black men who don't wear Bill Cosby sweaters and sing like The Temptations are potential criminals and not "good blacks."

Political incorrectness (not racist): Why did the Mexican student bring his friend to class?  Because he had to turn in his essay.

Factual incorrectness (racist): For every 1 useful immigrant, 100 thugs cross the border.

Political incorrectness (not racist): Did you hear about the Mexican who threw his wife over a cliff? When the police officer asked him why he’d done it he said, “Tequila! Tequila!”

Factual incorrectness (racist): A majority of people don't want immigration reform.  Only ethnic groups do.



Very important distinction.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2013, 09:48:28 PM »

We should stay away from words like any and all when making statements about other cultures, but stereotypes are made for reasons.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2013, 10:38:38 PM »

We should stay away from words like any and all when making statements about other cultures, but stereotypes are made for reasons.

Those reasons: confirmation bias, bigotry.
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2013, 12:51:49 AM »

Yes, because it makes it easier for the traditional right to operate(and allows them to get a few of their own victories, like video games and nudity). If the traditional right was unrestrained it would  have alienated many of its own supporters with the brashness, like BNP in UK.
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