Does anyone actually believe The Media has a liberal bias?
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« on: July 31, 2013, 02:09:08 AM »

Seriously, do the people who say this actually believe it? Or are they really delusional?

On the other hand, who really says it anymore, except for people in The Media?
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 02:21:59 AM »

I more or less believe it.  I also, absolutely believe that there is a great misunderstanding as to what liberalism is.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 05:55:12 AM »

People who get heavy doses of FoX Newspeak Channel see little of the "liberal bias" of the media. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 06:47:13 AM »

I think they have a ratings bias. We all witnessed how fast they turned on Obama last October so they could promote the "Horserace" mentality and gain more viewers.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 06:49:37 AM »

Yes. Lots of people. Why? See here
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 09:15:40 AM »

The very notion is laughable. How much air time does the mainstream news devote to even touching on the horrors of our nation's problem wealth disparity?

They're for whatever produces ratings. Obama's presidency has been declared dead a half-dozen times.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 09:20:16 AM »

The media industry both markets toward, reinforces and tries to grow biases of all kinds.  Thus, we have conservative and liberal media outlets in the larger media industry.  But in the U.S., the biggest media bias is in favor of making money.

Nonetheless, for all the justifiable complaints about media bias in our society, we could do a lot worse.  If you want to find real political bias in media, North Korea, China, Singapore et al. specialize in it.  
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 02:26:14 PM »

Seriously, do the people who say this actually believe it? Or are they really delusional?

On the other hand, who really says it anymore, except for people in The Media?

You actually think the media has no bias? Or even a conservative bias? The media has been dominated by liberals for decades, give me proof of the media being controlled by conservatives and then I might believe you. Talk radio is the only thing conservatives control, everything else crushes conservatism including newspapers, TV media, websites, online articles, etc. At least that's what I see.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 02:32:21 PM »

You actually think the media has no bias? Or even a conservative bias? The media has been dominated by liberals for decades, give me proof of the media being controlled by conservatives and then I might believe you.

Just some recent examples: The Media keeps reposting Tea Party press releases verbatim, while they ignore or attack Occupy. The Media has even been caught falsifying stories against Occupy.

The Media also hyped the far-right Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day last year.

Also, why do most big newspapers have a business section but no labor section?
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 03:04:52 PM »

Seriously, do the people who say this actually believe it? Or are they really delusional?

On the other hand, who really says it anymore, except for people in The Media?

You actually think the media has no bias? Or even a conservative bias? The media has been dominated by liberals for decades, give me proof of the media being controlled by conservatives and then I might believe you. Talk radio is the only thing conservatives control, everything else crushes conservatism including newspapers, TV media, websites, online articles, etc. At least that's what I see.

The media objectively has a strong capitalist bias and a palpable slant towards big business, which certainly is explainable. Not sure what you've been hearing or reading.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 03:11:22 PM »

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 03:31:22 PM »

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 03:32:24 PM »

You actually think the media has no bias? Or even a conservative bias? The media has been dominated by liberals for decades, give me proof of the media being controlled by conservatives and then I might believe you.

Just some recent examples: The Media keeps reposting Tea Party press releases verbatim, while they ignore or attack Occupy. The Media has even been caught falsifying stories against Occupy.

The Media also hyped the far-right Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day last year.

Also, why do most big newspapers have a business section but no labor section?

So what they include in their coverage/papers you'd define as a conservative bias, but when it comes to general politics, don't MOST media outlets have a liberal opinion bias?

Also if you can find an article that attacks occupy wall street that not is conservative that would be great.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 04:16:27 PM »

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

I think that's about correct.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 04:17:40 PM »

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

I think that's about correct.
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 06:52:43 PM »

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 07:05:21 PM »

Yes, but only because it does.  Anyone who says otherwise has been watching too many liberal news outlets to be the "objective alternative" to that "crazy right-wing network" Fox News.
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2013, 09:39:52 PM »

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2013, 10:16:38 PM »

I more or less believe it.  I also, absolutely believe that there is a great misunderstanding as to what liberalism is.

The media have a urban profesional bias, for many conservatives that's perceived as liberal (thank's to the liberal attitudes toward alternative lifestyles), while for us other it's perceived as conservative (thanks to the pro-business attitude of the media).

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

Both of these are of course correct.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2013, 11:22:41 PM »

The fact a liberal had to ask this question proves that the media is liberal. Most major media networks are owned by wealthy Jews. John Kerry won 92-6 over Bush amongst members of the press. Bill Clinton got 88% of the press in 1992 when there was a 3 way race. You know what it's just easier to say yes it's liberal.

False.  There is not one major media company owned by wealthy Jews.  Not a single one. 
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2013, 11:27:29 PM »

The fact a liberal had to ask this question proves that the media is liberal. Most major media networks are owned by wealthy Jews. John Kerry won 92-6 over Bush amongst members of the press. Bill Clinton got 88% of the press in 1992 when there was a 3 way race. You know what it's just easier to say yes it's liberal.

False.  There is not one major media company owned by wealthy Jews.  Not a single one. 

But pointing that out isn't as fun as blaming the Jews for everything.  Angry
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2013, 11:39:11 PM »

The fact a liberal had to ask this question proves that the media is liberal. Most major media networks are owned by wealthy Jews. John Kerry won 92-6 over Bush amongst members of the press. Bill Clinton got 88% of the press in 1992 when there was a 3 way race. You know what it's just easier to say yes it's liberal.

False.  There is not one major media company owned by wealthy Jews.  Not a single one. 

But pointing that out isn't as fun as blaming the Jews for everything.  Angry

That's a game of semantics, Comcast/NBCUniversal, Disney, CBS/Viacom, Sony Entertainment, the New York Times, and the Washington Post all have Jewish CEOs.  They are all publicly-traded companies, which are run by Jewish men.  Of course it is silly and anti-semitic to suggest that there is some sort of organized conspiracy among Jews to coordinate media coverage, but Jews do tend to be more urban and left-leaning than non-Jews even (in fact especially) adjusting for income, and that does affect the corporate culture.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2013, 11:52:39 PM »

The fact a liberal had to ask this question proves that the media is liberal. Most major media networks are owned by wealthy Jews. John Kerry won 92-6 over Bush amongst members of the press. Bill Clinton got 88% of the press in 1992 when there was a 3 way race. You know what it's just easier to say yes it's liberal.

False.  There is not one major media company owned by wealthy Jews.  Not a single one. 

But pointing that out isn't as fun as blaming the Jews for everything.  Angry

That's a game of semantics, Comcast/NBCUniversal, Disney, CBS/Viacom, Sony Entertainment, the New York Times, and the Washington Post all have Jewish CEOs.  They are all publicly-traded companies, which are run by Jewish men.  Of course it is silly and anti-semitic to suggest that there is some sort of organized conspiracy among Jews to coordinate media coverage, but Jews do tend to be more urban and left-leaning than non-Jews even (in fact especially) adjusting for income, and that does affect the corporate culture.

It's not semantics.  Publicly traded corporations are owned by the shareholders.  The major media corporations do not have majority shareholders and generally, the largest shareholders are institutional investors like banks, pension funds and mutual funds.  The CEO is an employee of the corporation.  And regardless, CEOs don't love Barack Obama or the Torah, they love money.  They're motivated to advance their own financial interest and that of the board of directors and shareholders, not any political agenda.
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2013, 12:03:41 AM »

The fact a liberal had to ask this question proves that the media is liberal. Most major media networks are owned by wealthy Jews. John Kerry won 92-6 over Bush amongst members of the press. Bill Clinton got 88% of the press in 1992 when there was a 3 way race. You know what it's just easier to say yes it's liberal.

False.  There is not one major media company owned by wealthy Jews.  Not a single one. 

But pointing that out isn't as fun as blaming the Jews for everything.  Angry

That's a game of semantics, Comcast/NBCUniversal, Disney, CBS/Viacom, Sony Entertainment, the New York Times, and the Washington Post all have Jewish CEOs.  They are all publicly-traded companies, which are run by Jewish men.  Of course it is silly and anti-semitic to suggest that there is some sort of organized conspiracy among Jews to coordinate media coverage, but Jews do tend to be more urban and left-leaning than non-Jews even (in fact especially) adjusting for income, and that does affect the corporate culture.

It's not semantics.  Publicly traded corporations are owned by the shareholders.  The major media corporations do not have majority shareholders and generally, the largest shareholders are institutional investors like banks, pension funds and mutual funds.  The CEO is an employee of the corporation.  And regardless, CEOs don't love Barack Obama or the Torah, they love money.  They're motivated to advance their own financial interest and that of the board of directors and shareholders, not any political agenda.

ITT: Libertarian fails to understand economics.
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 12:12:38 AM »

ITT: Libertarian fails to understand economics.

Nope.  First of all, this has nothing to do with economics, this is corporate governance, an entirely different subject, and his argument is specious and indeed semantic.  Shareholders theoretically have 100% of the decision-making power in a public (or any) corporation, but they designate their power to a board of directors which in turn designates its power to a CEO, who de facto if not de jure "runs" a business.  This is why lefties are constantly screaming about how CEOs are controlling everything and the root of all evil.  If you wish to revise that position of yours, go right ahead.

On the subject of failing to understand economics, your economic score is impossible to achieve without subscribing to the most thoroughly discredited and refuted economic idea in human history, the wrong-headedness of which every school of economics is in complete agreement on.
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