This is why I miss Robert Byrd

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[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I think some of Byrd's earlier views on gays and African-Americans are reprehensible, but like many Americans, he evolved and was able to redeem himself before his death.  His critical approach to the powers of Congress and the imperial presidency is one that so many lack today.  He was one of West Virginia's finest, and indeed, one of the Senate's finest.

[Kung Fu Kenny]

He was better at the end of his life, but he still

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[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Robert Byrd was amazing. I was in WV when he died, and you could feel the somberness in the air...

He was better at the end of his life, but he still

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I think some of Byrd's earlier views on gays and African-Americans are reprehensible, but like many Americans, he evolved and was able to redeem himself before his death.  His critical approach to the powers of Congress and the imperial presidency is one that so many lack today.  He was one of West Virginia's finest, and indeed, one of the Senate's finest.

He evolved over time. I think Robert Byrd is the role model for what the founders envisioned as a Senator. The Senate has devolved into a wasteland since his death.

[Adam Griffin]

Iono, this one tickles me more.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Iono, this one tickles me more.

My uncle has his bluegrass CD.  I come from a WV family, and have always been fond of Senator Byrd.

[H. Ross Peron]

I think some of Byrd's earlier views on gays and African-Americans are reprehensible, but like many Americans, he evolved and was able to redeem himself before his death.  His critical approach to the powers of Congress and the imperial presidency is one that so many lack today.  He was one of West Virginia's finest, and indeed, one of the Senate's finest.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Iono, this one tickles me more.

This video alone triples my respect for him.

[Kung Fu Kenny]

Iono, this one tickles me more.

This video alone triples my respect for him.

Yep, same.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I think some of Byrd's earlier views on gays and African-Americans are reprehensible, but like many Americans, he evolved and was able to redeem himself before his death.  His critical approach to the powers of Congress and the imperial presidency is one that so many lack today.  He was one of West Virginia's finest, and indeed, one of the Senate's finest.

While I agree with you on the first part (especially that many American evolved), I can't help but ask, when did Senator Byrd?  He repeatedly used the term "white nig**r" in a Fox News interview that he did in 2001.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I think some of Byrd's earlier views on gays and African-Americans are reprehensible, but like many Americans, he evolved and was able to redeem himself before his death.  His critical approach to the powers of Congress and the imperial presidency is one that so many lack today.  He was one of West Virginia's finest, and indeed, one of the Senate's finest.

While I agree with you on the first part (especially that many American evolved), I can't help but ask, when did Senator Byrd?  He repeatedly used the term "white nig**r" in a Fox News interview that he did in 2001.

Byrd wasn't using that word to disparage people; he was using it to make a point, and later apologized for offending people with the way he articulated his feelings.

[barfbag]

I don't know if an apology makes up for his Klan involvement or his late in life liberalism. He was clearly senile at the end and if someone didn't see it, then it's because they didn't want to. Robert Byrd was a disgrace as a Klansman, senator, and pork spender.

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

How did he attempt to "ruin" anybodys life?

[bedstuy]

Robert Byrd, like all politicians of yesteryear, was the product of the sins of his country on race and politics.  If a different Senator represented West Virginia, he would have been just as racist and provincial as Robert Byrd.  But looking at Robert Byrd's life, agree or disagree with his positions and policies, he was a great figure in American history. 

But, more importantly, today we need some Senators who are as authentic and passionate as Robert Byrd.  And we need some Senators who can play the fiddle.  Or at least we need some Senators that can play something that well.  How awesome would it be if Barbara Mikulski could belt out a face-melting guitar solo?  Fairly awesome say I. 

[tpfkaw]

Robert Byrd, like all politicians of yesteryear, was the product of the sins of his country on race and politics.  If a different Senator represented West Virginia, he would have been just as racist and provincial as Robert Byrd.  But looking at Robert Byrd's life, agree or disagree with his positions and policies, he was a great figure in American history.  

But, more importantly, today we need some Senators who are as authentic and passionate as Robert Byrd.  And we need some Senators who can play the fiddle.  Or at least we need some Senators that can play something that well.  How awesome would it be if Barbara Mikulski could belt out a face-melting guitar solo?  Fairly awesome say I.  

You cannot simultaneously laud his authentic genuineness and dismiss his racism, which was extreme even by Southern Democrat standards despite his representing one of the most racially progressive southern states, on the basis of "well anyone from West Virginia would be."  Do you see the logical inconsistency here?*  Of course, it's plain that he was an authentic genuine extreme racist.  Being the local Exalted Cyclops would've been a political liability in 1940s Alabama, much more so West Virginia.  Remember also that this was the guy who as late as the 80s was joining filibusters of MLK Day, and dropping n-words on national television in the 2000s.

*It's also just plain not true, the Senators who served with him, Matt Neely, Jennings Randolph, and Jay Rockefeller were all not racists and in fact among the more actively anti-racist members of the Democratic caucus.

[bedstuy]

Robert Byrd, like all politicians of yesteryear, was the product of the sins of his country on race and politics.  If a different Senator represented West Virginia, he would have been just as racist and provincial as Robert Byrd.  But looking at Robert Byrd's life, agree or disagree with his positions and policies, he was a great figure in American history.  

But, more importantly, today we need some Senators who are as authentic and passionate as Robert Byrd.  And we need some Senators who can play the fiddle.  Or at least we need some Senators that can play something that well.  How awesome would it be if Barbara Mikulski could belt out a face-melting guitar solo?  Fairly awesome say I.  

You cannot simultaneously laud his authentic genuineness and dismiss his racism, which was extreme even by Southern Democrat standards despite his representing one of the most racially progressive southern states, on the basis of "well anyone from West Virginia would be."  Do you see the logical inconsistency here?  Of course, it's plain that he was an authentic genuine extreme racist.  Being the local Exalted Cyclops would've been a political liability in 1940s Alabama, much more so West Virginia.  Remember also that this was the guy who as late as the 80s was joining filibusters of MLK Day, and dropping n-words on national television in the 2000s.

I'm not saying he was a positive political force in American history.  He was not.  On balance, he was a decidedly negative force in politics.  I use the word "great" as in formidable and important, not as in positive.  But, he was an interesting character and a major force in history.   The banality of our leadership today makes these characters from our political past all the more interesting. 

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

How did he attempt to "ruin" anybodys life?

Voting to make people's lives harder like voting against the Civil Rights Acts? Actions speak louder than words. His words mean nothing after his voting record.

[Goldwater]

Iono, this one tickles me more.

This video alone triples my respect for him.

Yep, same.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

How did he attempt to "ruin" anybodys life?

Voting to make people's lives harder like voting against the Civil Rights Acts? Actions speak louder than words. His words mean nothing after his voting record.

Voting to not improve someone's life does not equate to ruining ones life, no matter horrible his stance on civil rights is.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

I don't care how many times he "apologized", someone who is as homophobic and racist as him and has used his powers in an attempt to ruin the lives of blacks and gays is beyond redemption in my eyes.

How did he attempt to "ruin" anybodys life?

Voting to make people's lives harder like voting against the Civil Rights Acts? Actions speak louder than words. His words mean nothing after his voting record.

Voting to not improve someone's life does not equate to ruining ones life, no matter horrible his stance on civil rights is.

Alright, let’s rephrase it: voting to continue the system that was ruining their lives.

[barfbag]

Barack Obama campaigned for Robert Byrd in 2008, just 7 years after using the n-word on Fox News. This just goes to show how much Democrats really care about race. Robert Byrd was a grand dragon who filibustered the Civil Rights bill for 14 hours. Obama is a black guy who apparently doesn't really care about race after all. Actions speak louder than words and Obama's actions of campaigning for a Klansman speak volumes. I'm trying to figure out which one I hate more.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Barack Obama campaigned for Robert Byrd in 2008, just 7 years after using the n-word on Fox News. This just goes to show how much Democrats really care about race. Robert Byrd was a grand dragon who filibustered the Civil Rights bill for 14 hours. Obama is a black guy who apparently doesn't really care about race after all. Actions speak louder than words and Obama's actions of campaigning for a Klansman speak volumes. I'm trying to figure out which one I hate more.

Byrd actually campaigned for Obama.  It's similar to how Fritz Hollings (a former segregationist who voted against confirming Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court) supported Jesse Jackson for president in the 80s despite using racial and ethnic slurs repeatedly before and after doing so.

Robert Byrd, like all politicians of yesteryear, was the product of the sins of his country on race and politics.  If a different Senator represented West Virginia, he would have been just as racist and provincial as Robert Byrd.  But looking at Robert Byrd's life, agree or disagree with his positions and policies, he was a great figure in American history. 

But, more importantly, today we need some Senators who are as authentic and passionate as Robert Byrd.  And we need some Senators who can play the fiddle.  Or at least we need some Senators that can play something that well.  How awesome would it be if Barbara Mikulski could belt out a face-melting guitar solo?  Fairly awesome say I. 

You cannot simultaneously laud his authentic genuineness and dismiss his racism, which was extreme even by Southern Democrat standards despite his representing one of the most racially progressive southern states, on the basis of "well anyone from West Virginia would be."  Do you see the logical inconsistency here?*  Of course, it's plain that he was an authentic genuine extreme racist.  Being the local Exalted Cyclops would've been a political liability in 1940s Alabama, much more so West Virginia.  Remember also that this was the guy who as late as the 80s was joining filibusters of MLK Day, and dropping n-words on national television in the 2000s.
*It's also just plain not true, the Senators who served with him, Matt Neely, Jennings Randolph, and Jay Rockefeller were all not racists and in fact among the more actively anti-racist members of the Democratic caucus.

I hate to play devil's advocate, but MLK's family also opposed MLK Day initially.  And how would being Exalted Cyclops of the KKK be a liability in Alabama in the 1940s?  If anything, I would think just the opposite.

[barfbag]

Barack Obama campaigned for Robert Byrd in 2008, just 7 years after using the n-word on Fox News. This just goes to show how much Democrats really care about race. Robert Byrd was a grand dragon who filibustered the Civil Rights bill for 14 hours. Obama is a black guy who apparently doesn't really care about race after all. Actions speak louder than words and Obama's actions of campaigning for a Klansman speak volumes. I'm trying to figure out which one I hate more.

Byrd actually campaigned for Obama.  It's similar to how Fritz Hollings (a former segregationist who voted against confirming Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court) supported Jesse Jackson for president in the 80s despite using racial and ethnic slurs repeatedly before and after doing so.

Robert Byrd, like all politicians of yesteryear, was the product of the sins of his country on race and politics.  If a different Senator represented West Virginia, he would have been just as racist and provincial as Robert Byrd.  But looking at Robert Byrd's life, agree or disagree with his positions and policies, he was a great figure in American history. 

But, more importantly, today we need some Senators who are as authentic and passionate as Robert Byrd.  And we need some Senators who can play the fiddle.  Or at least we need some Senators that can play something that well.  How awesome would it be if Barbara Mikulski could belt out a face-melting guitar solo?  Fairly awesome say I. 

You cannot simultaneously laud his authentic genuineness and dismiss his racism, which was extreme even by Southern Democrat standards despite his representing one of the most racially progressive southern states, on the basis of "well anyone from West Virginia would be."  Do you see the logical inconsistency here?*  Of course, it's plain that he was an authentic genuine extreme racist.  Being the local Exalted Cyclops would've been a political liability in 1940s Alabama, much more so West Virginia.  Remember also that this was the guy who as late as the 80s was joining filibusters of MLK Day, and dropping n-words on national television in the 2000s.
*It's also just plain not true, the Senators who served with him, Matt Neely, Jennings Randolph, and Jay Rockefeller were all not racists and in fact among the more actively anti-racist members of the Democratic caucus.

I hate to play devil's advocate, but MLK's family also opposed MLK Day initially.  And how would being Exalted Cyclops of the KKK be a liability in Alabama in the 1940s?  If anything, I would think just the opposite.

At the end of the day they all campaign for each other. Sometimes I wonder who is serving who. Robert Byrd did have passion. It's too bad he had passion for segregation. Only intellectual dishonesty could claim Robert Byrd wasn't a racist.