Foreign Policy Review (Rejected)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Damn it Polnut and Maxy, you ain't retired yet!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Maybe if I were to trash talk Canadians and Australians it would get there attention.

[DemPGH]

It's rejected, 5-3, after lying dormant for a lengthy period of time. If we re-introduce it hopefully we can get it ironed out this time.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Prof. Yankee, there is no question that whatever amount of money you are paid here, it is too little. I would vote you a raise.

Final vote, senators, so you know what to do! Go.

Did the definition of seven days change or something?

Though I should not I am horrible with month transitions, I think seven days is tomorrow night.

[DemPGH]

Prof. Yankee, there is no question that whatever amount of money you are paid here, it is too little. I would vote you a raise.

Final vote, senators, so you know what to do! Go.

Did the definition of seven days change or something?

Though I should not I am horrible with month transitions, I think seven days is tomorrow night.

I thought it was five days! Look, we're waiting on Max and Polnut, I don't know what the hold up is. If I ended it early and they're waiting till the last second to vote, then let's get them in here and vote on it! Do they know what's going on? I should damn well #@^*g think so.

[DemPGH]

It's rejected, 5-3, after lying dormant for a lengthy period of time. If we re-introduce it hopefully we can get it ironed out this time.

The vote was illegally declared ended and is hereby still ongoing.

There are actually a number of ways that votes can end early, a couple of them are incredibly odd, and after checking the rule book again, I see that I had gotten this vote confused with one of those scenarios, so I thought five days applied here. But that is not the case since the --- situation at hand is not one of those scenarios. This is a different scenario. My apologies.

WE'LL CONTINUE WAITING. Thank you for your attention.

[MaxQue]

Nay. That thing is clearly not having enough support and will stand next to no legitimacy with our allies. I would prefer to re-do it with the new Senators, hoping for a wider consensus.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

What good is consensus if we're throwing our strongest ally in the Middle East under the bus?

[TNF]

What good is consensus if we're throwing our strongest ally in the Middle East under the bus?

We shouldn't be allied with Apartheid South Africa 2.0.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

What good is consensus if we're throwing our strongest ally in the Middle East under the bus?

A question the Senate would rather ignore, instead making moronic comparisons to justify their idiocy.

[Sbane]

What good is consensus if we're throwing our strongest ally in the Middle East under the bus?

A question the Senate would rather ignore, instead making moronic comparisons to justify their idiocy.

Why should we support a nation that tramples the rights of poor people, isolating them into ghettos, while taking more and more land from them? Settlements are continuously being built. Israel isn't interested in peace, and as long as they are not, we don't need them as our allies.

[Napoleon]

Okay, Israel is an "ally". What has Israel ever done for us?

[DemPGH]

This is admittedly going to be tough, but I hope we can try again once this one is finally down for the count. I can't end it yet - if I'm reading the rules right, we're technically in a vote change period now (6th vote occurring on the 6th or 7th day day) until time runs out, and I don't want to add 24 hrs. anyway since this is a done deal. I'll be out this evening, so someone let me know when this thing is cooked.

As to Israel, they are an intel partner, and a needed one!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is admittedly going to be tough, but I hope we can try again once this one is finally down for the count. I can't end it yet - if I'm reading the rules right, we're technically in a vote change period now (6th vote occurring on the 6th or 7th day day) until time runs out, and I don't want to add 24 hrs. anyway since this is a done deal. I'll be out this evening, so someone let me know when this thing is cooked.

As to Israel, they are an intel partner, and a needed one!!

Remember 24 hours is only for ending votes early. If time expires on the vote itself, that is it.

[TNF]

What good is consensus if we're throwing our strongest ally in the Middle East under the bus?

A question the Senate would rather ignore, instead making moronic comparisons to justify their idiocy.

You seem the one ignoring Israeli war crimes, Ben.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would suggest not waiting for the next Senate. I would suggest a Senator going ahead and reintroducing the FPR and the VP bringing it up in this FP slot as soon as that is done.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This ends in less than three hours.

[DemPGH]

Okay, it's officially rejected.

I'd like to get another one up ASAP that incorporates the suggestions that everyone will be amenable to. Plus, there's got to be a compromise on the Israeli situation, which is the direction we should be headed on that. Too many people see us as simply assisting an aggressor, so there's got to be a softer or compromised way to maintain our relationship with Israel. I don't think either side is going to convince the other regarding Israel; rather, we should try to come up with something that a majority of the Senate can live with, which may not be ideal but may be satisfactory. Ideas?

[Sbane]

Specifically mentioning that Israel has to completely end settlement building before we grant them most priority status is fine with me.

[TNF]

Specifically mentioning that Israel has to completely end settlement building before we grant them most priority status is fine with me.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Gass, do you want to reintroduce this or do you prefer someone else?

I would recommend TNF not do it. He has the budget already (Though that might not last much longer at this rate) and a good number of bills of his to get considered and weighing him down with both this and the budget wouldn't be fair.

Would it be best to start from the last text in this thread and thus avoid having to re-offer those amendments on Kuwait and Armenia and so forth? As for the Israel stuff,  you could rewrite it prior to introduction as well or leave it blank to be added via amendment, since that is an open concern.