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Question: What will be the next country to legalize gay marriage?
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Famous Mortimer
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« on: July 17, 2013, 01:59:39 PM »
« edited: July 17, 2013, 02:08:10 PM by WillipsBrighton »
That's the question.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2013, 02:04:12 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2013, 02:55:15 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2013, 03:08:37 PM »
Either Finland or Colombia. Picked Colombia because things always seem to go faster and smoother in Latin America.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2013, 05:06:53 PM »
Scotland.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 05:25:13 PM »
I really hope that it is going to be Finland. It's going to go to the parliament through a citizens initiative. It already have a 152 876 names, and 50 000 was the needed number.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 08:13:31 PM »
Isn't Nepal supposed to be close to legalizing it?
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 08:38:34 PM »
The Nepali supreme court ordered gay marriage to be included in the new constitution but the new constitution is nowhere near even being written.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2013, 10:29:25 PM »
I'm surprised Finland hasn't already done it.  What was the hold-up? 
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2013, 10:43:04 PM »
« Edited: July 17, 2013, 10:44:59 PM by Francis Jordan MP »
Quote from: Frodo on July 17, 2013, 10:29:25 PM
I'm surprised Finland hasn't already done it.  What was the hold-up? 

Slavic heritage is too strong.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2013, 11:45:51 PM »
Columbia or Finland out of those options.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2013, 09:56:41 PM »
Quote from: Francis Jordan MP on July 17, 2013, 10:43:04 PM
Quote from: Frodo on July 17, 2013, 10:29:25 PM
I'm surprised Finland hasn't already done it.  What was the hold-up? 

Slavic heritage is too strong.

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2013, 06:36:53 AM »
Finland surely?

The RoC is a dark horse though.
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2013, 03:27:45 PM »
Is it actually going to come up for a vote anytime soon in Finland?

I only included them as an option because of they're the last Scandinavian country that doesn't have it and a gay man came in second in the last presidential election.

I hadn't heard any concrete legislative news though.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2013, 03:42:05 PM »
Quote from: WillipsBrighton on July 20, 2013, 03:27:45 PM
Is it actually going to come up for a vote anytime soon in Finland?

I only included them as an option because of they're the last Scandinavian country that doesn't have it and a gay man came in second in the last presidential election.

I hadn't heard any concrete legislative news though.

It was stuck 9-8 in a committee vote in March, but it will return soon in Parliament. Finland has a ctitizen initiative process and Parliament MUST debate laws if they are signed by more than 50,000 persons. They got 150,000.
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2013, 04:06:28 PM »
Almost certainly Finland. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2013, 02:00:42 AM »
Finland. Germany is also in the realm of possibility.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2013, 08:57:25 AM »
Probably Finland.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2013, 02:58:10 PM »
Colombia - Isn't the current government pretty right-wing? But a lot of people are citing it, so...
Albania - Haha, no. Eastern Europe has never been gay-friendly.
Luxembourg - Good shot of it, IIRC. All three gay couples will be able to marry soon.
Vietnam - From what I've heard, East Asia has never cared much either way about homosexuality. Possibly.
Cuba - Not impossible, but the PCC has been pretty homophobic in the past.
Taiwan - See Vietnam, but more democratic.
Finland - Yeah, this is probably coming soon.

So in order from most to least likely:

Finland
Luxembourg
Colombia
Taiwan
Vietnam
Cuba
Albania
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2013, 04:26:05 PM »
Quote from: Snowstalker on July 21, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
Colombia - Isn't the current government pretty right-wing? But a lot of people are citing it, so...
Albania - Haha, no. Eastern Europe has never been gay-friendly.
Luxembourg - Good shot of it, IIRC. All three gay couples will be able to marry soon.
Vietnam - From what I've heard, East Asia has never cared much either way about homosexuality. Possibly.
Cuba - Not impossible, but the PCC has been pretty homophobic in the past.
Taiwan - See Vietnam, but more democratic.
Finland - Yeah, this is probably coming soon.

So in order from most to least likely:

Finland
Luxembourg
Colombia
Taiwan
Vietnam
Cuba
Albania

Colombia: A gay marriage will take place in Colombia on July 24th, in conjunction with a court order. It remains unclear though if gay marriage will become available on demand at this point or if every gay marriage will require an individual court order.

Albania: Both major parties are for gay marriage. They would have legalized it before but the opposition (now the government) was boycotting because of claimed election fraud, thus denying a quorum for amending existing laws.

Luxembourg: The leadership of all main parties is for it but the issue lost on a free vote. A new parliament might be different though.

Vietnam: There's been talk coming out of the judicial branch.

Cuba: USED to be very homophobic. Not any more. Raul's daughter is head of a gay rights organization. The government pays for transsexuals to get realignment surgery. I'm actually surprised they did that before they did gay marriage.

Taiwan: Again, rumblings from the judicial branch.

Finland: What everyone else said.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2013, 08:12:37 PM »
Quote from: WillipsBrighton on July 21, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: Snowstalker on July 21, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
Colombia - Isn't the current government pretty right-wing? But a lot of people are citing it, so...
Albania - Haha, no. Eastern Europe has never been gay-friendly.
Luxembourg - Good shot of it, IIRC. All three gay couples will be able to marry soon.
Vietnam - From what I've heard, East Asia has never cared much either way about homosexuality. Possibly.
Cuba - Not impossible, but the PCC has been pretty homophobic in the past.
Taiwan - See Vietnam, but more democratic.
Finland - Yeah, this is probably coming soon.

So in order from most to least likely:

Finland
Luxembourg
Colombia
Taiwan
Vietnam
Cuba
Albania

Colombia: A gay marriage will take place in Colombia on July 24th, in conjunction with a court order. It remains unclear though if gay marriage will become available on demand at this point or if every gay marriage will require an individual court order.

Albania: Both major parties are for gay marriage. They would have legalized it before but the opposition (now the government) was boycotting because of claimed election fraud, thus denying a quorum for amending existing laws.

Luxembourg: The leadership of all main parties is for it but the issue lost on a free vote. A new parliament might be different though.

Vietnam: There's been talk coming out of the judicial branch.

Cuba: USED to be very homophobic. Not any more. Raul's daughter is head of a gay rights organization. The government pays for transsexuals to get realignment surgery. I'm actually surprised they did that before they did gay marriage.

Taiwan: Again, rumblings from the judicial branch.

Finland: What everyone else said.
Iran does something like that too and they kill gays...
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2013, 10:55:10 AM »
Yeah, Albania is surprisingly close to it if you compare to the cliché of Eastern Europe countries...
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2013, 01:34:45 PM »
The Inspector General of Colombia petitioned the Supreme Court to clarify their ruling from a few years ago, specifically to clarify by agreeing with him that gay marriage shouldn't be legal.

The Supreme Court refused to do so and also warned the Inspector General that he should "maintain decorum" in court.

At the same time though, they did not come out in support of gay marriage either.

Huge cluster-f***
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2013, 02:29:26 PM »
So the ceremony took place on the 24th. The participants called it a marriage but lots of people insisting it wasn't, only an "equivalent union."

Oddly, one of the people insisting that was Carlos Gaviria, former presidential candidate of the leftist Alternative Democratic Pole as well as a former Constitutional Court official. Don't know if that's just his legal opinion or his legal and personal opinion.

This isn't won't be cleared up until it goes to the Supreme Court again.
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2013, 08:48:25 AM »
Being Nordic and European, I think that Finland is most likely the next country to adopt gay marriage. However, since Colombia already has a court order, I think they will be faster than Finland.
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