Mississippi

[ElectionsGuy]

Each year in Mississippi the % of whites in the state is dropping and the state could be competitive by the 2020's.   

Black population in MS at each census
1900 58.5
1910 56.2
1920 52.2
1930 50.2
1940 49.2
1950 45.3
1960 42.0
1970 36.8
1980 35.2
1990 35.6
2000 36.3
2010 37.0
Yes, the black percentage in increasing again after dropping forever, but it's hardly on track to make the state competitive.

What this doesn't take into account is the growing Hispanic population as well as the fact that younger whites are more inclined to vote Democratic, rather than be monolithically Republican.

Just look at how well Obama did in 2008 and 2012 with 18-30's in Mississippi.  This state could become competitive within a decade.

I know you might think that, but everybody says that. The sad truth for Democrats is that even though the younger are more democratic today, they get more republican in the future. Keeping the states competitive. It's been proven that (for example) younger people in the 70's were more democratic than older people in the 70's, but now they've gotten more republican as they aged.

They might get more Republican, but only if the Republicans themselves change.  Individuals don't get more conservative as they age (there have been plenty of studies on this, disproving the myth, usually showing that individuals actually become more liberal as they age).  Instead, society as a whole gets more liberal (at least socially), leading individuals to become more relatively conservative in comparison to the nation as a whole.  

Plus it's not as if the youth vote has always been more liberal anyways.  This generation is especially more liberal than the nation as a whole, and it's not like we're all going to become racists and homophobes overnight.

First of all, you are correct. Society does get more liberal therefor the early generation gets more conservative to the rest of the nation as they age.

With you comment on the GOP now: Racist? Homophobes? Is this what you think the GOP is??? Let me tell you I heavily disagree with racism and denying the rights of gays (Then again I'm more socially liberal). Specifically with racism, If any republican is ever racist, I disagree with it instantly. I'm ashamed that people call my party racist. Do not label us all that way even if some are.

[barfbag]

Each year in Mississippi the % of whites in the state is dropping and the state could be competitive by the 2020's.   

Democrats have been saying the same about Arizona, Georgia, and South Carolina. The black voter turnout has been historically high for the last two elections. Some will continue to vote because their interest has been sparked and others will lose interest. At best Mississippi becomes a likely GOP state along with Georgia, South Carolina, and Arizona. It's too conservative of a region for a state to become purple. In fact about half of the state's voters still opposed mixed marriages and it's not like Mississippi is a growing state where people from all political backgrounds are moving to.

[greenforest32]

Blacks in Alabama should move to Mississippi and Georgia to take over said states

[barfbag]

Blacks in Alabama should move to Mississippi and Georgia to take over said states

really?

[The Free North]

Black people...

Yup.

You cant expect African Americans to get as excited for Gore or Kerry vs Obama. Not only electing him but keeping him in office drove up turnout significantly.

It will be interesting to see if this level of intensity is maintained if a non black candidate is nominated next time

[memphis]

Blacks in Alabama should move to Mississippi and Georgia to take over said states

If you moved all 1.3 million black people in Alabama to Georgia, there would still be far more white than blacks in Georgia. The idea of anybody moving from Alabama to Mississippi is insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_God_for_Mississippi

[greenforest32]

Blacks in Alabama should move to Mississippi and Georgia to take over said states

If you moved all 1.3 million black people in Alabama to Georgia, there would still be far more white than blacks in Georgia. The idea of anybody moving from Alabama to Mississippi is insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_God_for_Mississippi

Republicans won Georgia by 305k votes and Mississippi by 148k votes in 2012's presidential election.

Just sayin'

[cheesepizza]

Miss won't vote D until 2028 at least

[The Free North]

It will be interesting to see how black turnout responds to not having an African American on the ballot in 2016.

I think black turnout beat white turnout in 2012 for the first time in a long time, will that momentum be sustained in 2016?

[barfbag]

It will be interesting to see how black turnout responds to not having an African American on the ballot in 2016.

I think black turnout beat white turnout in 2012 for the first time in a long time, will that momentum be sustained in 2016?

Probably not but we'll see. Mississippi could slip into the moderate GOP column with SC and TN but I don't see it getting closer to the middle than there.

[eric82oslo]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

[barfbag]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

[cheesepizza]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

[illegaloperation]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

Didn't you know that "states' rights" is a code word for resisting the federal government's effort to force racial integration?

[opebo]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

You fellows must be confused or never met a Southerner.

[Person Man]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

You fellows must be confused or never met a Southerner.

[BaldEagle1991]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

[barfbag]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

So only Democrats can decide what is and isn't intelligent and we're stupid if we don't agree with you?

[BaldEagle1991]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

So only Democrats can decide what is and isn't intelligent and we're stupid if we don't agree with you?

No. Voting based on religious values which will eventually be imposed on other people is not intelligent.

[Space7]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                    Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

So only Democrats can decide what is and isn't intelligent and we're stupid if we don't agree with you?

Also, by making that comment, cheesepizza himself was deciding "what is intelligent", and therefore Republicans, too, are deciding "what is intelligent". Not just Democrats.

[barfbag]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

So only Democrats can decide what is and isn't intelligent and we're stupid if we don't agree with you?

No. Voting based on religious values which will eventually be imposed on other people is not intelligent.

It's not a lot of things, but there's nothing wrong with someone voting for the candidate that better suits their religious beliefs. We were founded on freedom of religion among other things and voters have every right to support their religious beliefs.

[ElectionsGuy]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

So only Democrats can decide what is and isn't intelligent and we're stupid if we don't agree with you?

No. Voting based on religious values which will eventually be imposed on other people is not intelligent.

It's not intelligent that religious beliefs get imposed on other people? Many democrats voted against Romney because they thought he was a right-wing white rich trash out of touch man who didn't care about other people, and they spread the word to other people. Similarly, many republicans voted against Obama because they thought he was a Muslim socialist who was going to wreck capitalism, and they also spread the word to others. It's just what people believe really, and no one can control what beliefs get imposed on others. It's really an opinion whether it's intelligent or not.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

Mississippi 18-29 whites voted 18% Obama in '08, which was better than 11% among all whites, but not exactly something to call home about.

Lol. That's a bit sad. Generation after generation after generation seems to be trapped in the same mindset. Still. After all these decades. 160 years after slavery officially ended in the south.

What mindset are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with having a conservative approach to things. The idea they're still into segregation is a stereotype.

                                                                                                                                                   Indeed.  Ms voters support limited govt, lower taxes, and judeo
 Christian values.  They are not racist, just intelligent

These do not belong in the same post.

So only Democrats can decide what is and isn't intelligent and we're stupid if we don't agree with you?

No. Voting based on religious values which will eventually be imposed on other people is not intelligent.

It's not intelligent that religious beliefs get imposed on other people? Many democrats voted against Romney because they thought he was a right-wing white rich trash out of touch man who didn't care about other people, and they spread the word to other people. Similarly, many republicans voted against Obama because they thought he was a Muslim socialist who was going to wreck capitalism, and they also spread the word to others. It's just what people believe really, and no one can control what beliefs get imposed on others. It's really an opinion whether it's intelligent or not.

Agreed. While Mississippi is actually ranked one of the lowest in terms of intelligence, most Republicans would agree with the limited government beliefs they have. The socon beliefs that many MS Republicans have on the other hand I, and most on that forum disagree with. Nobody here is imposing anything on anyone.

[cheesepizza]

Let me clarify.  MS voters are smart politically.  I have no comment toward their average IQ, which encompasses many factors.  However, the average MS voter's opinions on the size of government, tax policy, regulations, and energy would do far more good for the economy than the current administration's views.

[barfbag]

The question becomes how do we measure intelligence?