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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: May 25, 2013, 11:47:20 AM »

What a piece of sh*t.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 12:29:22 PM »

Are we actually going to use terms like "masculine" and "feminine" at face value, without adding the caveats that should be obvious to all by the 21st century? Masculinity and feminity are social constructs, which reflect the expectation society has toward men and women respectively. They do not actually have an inherent link to a person's sex.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 11:20:39 AM »

Are we actually going to use terms like "masculine" and "feminine" at face value, without adding the caveats that should be obvious to all by the 21st century? Masculinity and feminity are social constructs, which reflect the expectation society has toward men and women respectively. They do not actually have an inherent link to a person's sex.
I thought that the absurd idea than masculinity and feminity are social constructs was more typical of the mid 20th centuries and has long since been rejected. See this case, for example

I think you miss the point. The gender theory doesn't mean to say human beings can be toyed around and shaped the way that most fits some mad psychiatrist. Any attempt to force an identity on someone can result in tragedies like Reimer's - in fact, whether or not he had a Y chromosome matters little to the moral of the story. The whole point of gender studies is precisely to deconstruct the idea that people are male or female and therefore should act a certain way, and let everyone free to express themselves however they feel.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 08:13:00 AM »

People who don't take gender studies seriously do so for pretty obvious reasons (see Plato's cavern allegory - gender stereotypes are so ubiquitous in society that questioning them is like telling people their whole life was a lie).
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 08:21:25 AM »

People who don't take gender studies seriously do so for pretty obvious reasons (see Plato's cavern allegory - most people will never admit that the way they have been socialized throughout their lives has warped their vision of reality).

I don't think that anybody (ok, maybe some morons) would disagree that socialization plays a part. The argument of those in the natural sciences has tended to be that "gender studies" goes too far in rejecting the role of biology.

I don't know how far gender studies have gone exactly, but most people I have seen (both on the internet and IRL) still attribute biological origins to things that clearly the fruit of socialization.
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