North Korea declares War on South Korea

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Just because North Korea can inflict serious damage on South Korea does not mean that it is a very good idea for North Korea's self interests.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Anyone who is scared of NK should get help. because we are talking about a tiny POS island where people eat each other vs The USA where we could turn NK into a china house buffet.

[Silent Hunter]

Anyone who is scared of NK should get help. because we are talking about a tiny POS island where people eat each other vs The USA where we could turn NK into a china house buffet.

North Korea isn't tiny, isn't an island and does not practice cannibalism.

Also, it is now Tuesday in Korea and no missile test.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Also, it is now Tuesday in Korea and no missile test.

I always thought the 25th was a likelier day for a test as that is Military Foundation Day. In any case I don't see the DPRK starting to downratchet the tension until after then,

[Bacon King]

Also, it is now Tuesday in Korea and no missile test.

I always thought the 25th was a likelier day for a test as that is Military Foundation Day. In any case I don't see the DPRK starting to downratchet the tension until after then,

Speaking of North Korean Holidays, today is the 100th Birthday of the Eternal President of the Republic!

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Also, it is now Tuesday in Korea and no missile test.

I always thought the 25th was a likelier day for a test as that is Military Foundation Day. In any case I don't see the DPRK starting to downratchet the tension until after then,

Speaking of North Korean Holidays, today is the 100th Birthday of the Eternal President of the Republic!

101st. Kinda boring milestone compared to last years celebration.

[Bacon King]

Also, it is now Tuesday in Korea and no missile test.

I always thought the 25th was a likelier day for a test as that is Military Foundation Day. In any case I don't see the DPRK starting to downratchet the tension until after then,

Speaking of North Korean Holidays, today is the 100th Birthday of the Eternal President of the Republic!

101st. Kinda boring milestone compared to last years celebration.

Bacon King cannot into counting

[Eraserhead]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html

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From North Korea? Seriously?  If they did that for some idiotic half-baked attempt at political correctness, couldn't they have just used Korea?  Or were they trying to exclude Koreans from East Korea?

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

Not sure if their "aim" is good...

[Benj]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html

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From North Korea? Seriously?  If they did that for some idiotic half-baked attempt at political correctness, couldn't they have just used Korea?  Or were they trying to exclude Koreans from East Korea?

More likely it's just stupidity, but they might be trying to include North Korean defectors/refugees, who would be interesting to hear from.

[Eraserhead]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/world/asia/koreas-tensions/index.html

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From North Korea? Seriously?  If they did that for some idiotic half-baked attempt at political correctness, couldn't they have just used Korea?  Or were they trying to exclude Koreans from East Korea?

I thought that was pretty amusing.

[Beet]

http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-moves-two-more-missile-launchers-report-035049930.html

[Beet]

S. Korea to pull workers from joint industrial complex following blockade by Pyongyang

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/s-korea-says-it-will-withdraw-final-workers-from-joint-industrial-complex/2013/04/26/e5dade9e-ae61-11e2-8bf6-e70cb6ae066e_story.html

[Beet]

More tests will take North Korea closer to nuclear missile, Pentagon says

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/03/world/asia/north-korea-pentagon-report/index.html

[Beet]

North Korea calls US-South Korea summit a preparation for war

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/10/north-korea-calls-us-south-korea-summit-preparation-for-war-against-north/#ixzz2SttcSdbc

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I think it's telling that nearly everyone has stopped paying attention to North Korea by now.

[Beet]

I think it's telling that nearly everyone has stopped paying attention to North Korea by now.

Until the next crisis. Quite frankly, I'd never paid any attention to North Korea's sabre rattling until the height of the most recent episode, because before that I'd never thought it to be serious enough to warrant any attention.

The problem is that these incidents are becoming progressively more serious, while North Korea's military capabilities are becoming progressively greater every year. Strategic patience and "calling their bluff" was supposed to eventually make them realize their bad behavior wasn't getting them anything, and quit it. But that isn't happening.

As noted above, the Pentagon readily admits that North Korea will eventually have the ability to deliver ICBMs. That means they'll be as much of a threat to the U.S. as the Soviet Union was during it's heydey.

[Cory]

As noted above, the Pentagon readily admits that North Korea will eventually have the ability to deliver ICBMs. That means they'll be as much of a threat to the U.S. as the Soviet Union was during it's heydey.

This is just silly.

All because North Korea could launch a couple ICBMS at a few areas on the West Coast doesn't put them on par with the USSR capable of launching thousands of missiles and completely destroying out America as we know it.

You're really being an alarmist on this whole North Korea issue.

[Beet]

As noted above, the Pentagon readily admits that North Korea will eventually have the ability to deliver ICBMs. That means they'll be as much of a threat to the U.S. as the Soviet Union was during it's heydey.

This is just silly.

All because North Korea could launch a couple ICBMS at a few areas on the West Coast
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You're really being an alarmist on this whole North Korea issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZV_lIwmz5E

[Cory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZV_lIwmz5E

This does nothing to validate your point. The threat posed by North Korea is not at all comparable to the threat posed by the USSR. That was an absurd comparison you made and it is factually wrong.

[Beet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZV_lIwmz5E

This does nothing to validate your point. The threat posed by North Korea is not at all comparable to the threat posed by the USSR. That was an absurd comparison you made and it is factually wrong.

LOL, how can a comparison be factually wrong when no facts were even asserted, except ones that haven't been disputed? I treat 10 million people on the West Coast being wiped out and 100 million people on all coasts being wiped out similarly. Both of them fall into the category of "worst possible scenario" to me.

[Cory]

LOL, how can a comparison be factually wrong when no facts were even asserted, except ones that haven't been disputed? I treat 10 million people on the West Coast being wiped out and 100 million people on all coasts being wiped out similarly. Both of them fall into the category of "worst possible scenario" to me.

You said that North Korea could be "as much of a threat" as the USSR. This is absurd. Do you really think the consequences of a massive 1,000+ missile strike on the USA by the USSR circa 1985 is "just as bad" as two or three strikes on the West Coast?

[Beet]

LOL, how can a comparison be factually wrong when no facts were even asserted, except ones that haven't been disputed? I treat 10 million people on the West Coast being wiped out and 100 million people on all coasts being wiped out similarly. Both of them fall into the category of "worst possible scenario" to me.

You said that North Korea could be "as much of a threat" as the USSR. This is absurd. Do you really think the consequences of a massive 1,000+ missile strike on the USA by the USSR circa 1985 is "just as bad" as two or three strikes on the West Coast?

I think they're both so unthinkably bad that arguing about which one is worse is missing the point by a mile. There's a limit to how, psychologically, utterly terrified a person can be, and the thought of Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles being wiped out already takes me to the limit. The addition of NYC, Chicago and Washington D.C. can't push me any further.

[dead0man]

Having Seattle, SF and LA nuked would obviously suck huge ass, but it would be substantially less devestating than all out war with SU/Russia would be.  The former would be more like a really really bad 9-11, it's going to hurt, bad, but it wouldn't even be the end of those cities, much less the end of us.  The latter would put the human race in the ropes. 

I know conventional wisdom says that 3 nukes on the west coast means everybody west of Denver that was lucky enough to survive the blasts would no doubt be mutants or dead from radiation poison.  The facts are very different from that.