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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2013, 09:44:38 AM »

Congrats, Bushie!
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2013, 09:59:39 AM »

Wow, here I thought my coming out to my parents was a big act of courage. Apparently heteros can't even tell their own parents that they support same-sex marriage now. So brave.
I'd highly recommend you not tell your parents or anyone from Church, or they may ship you off to Kenya now instead of having one of "them kind" around.  K? Thx.

I don't dare tell my family.  I haven't even fully come out in support on facebook, yet.  I have plenty of friends on both sides of the issue.
I don't dare tell mine either. My father just said this morning that "this had better not pass or this country is done"

Well, Matt, if you were 31 like Bushie, I'd mock you for this......but it's hard to mock Bushie even, considering he lives in BFE and the anti-gay climate there.
Hell if my parents were even a little bit open about the issue then I would tell them. I love them, and they don't hate gay people, but just to give you perspective, their best friends from our church are friends with James f[inks] Dobson of all people.
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2013, 10:13:14 AM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2013, 10:14:22 AM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

God's calling you to Kenya.......tell Mom and Dad and you're there!  For good, too!
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2013, 10:17:13 AM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

God's calling you to Kenya.......tell Mom and Dad and you're there!  For good, too!

Probably would be, or my parents would think "that's giving him what he wants, so instead we'll ship him off in exile to a 'non-American' liberal city like Boston or San Francisco..."
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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2013, 10:27:49 AM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

God's calling you to Kenya.......tell Mom and Dad and you're there!  For good, too!

Probably would be, or my parents would think "that's giving him what he wants, so instead we'll ship him off in exile to a 'non-American' liberal city like Boston or San Francisco..."
Or the king of American small cities Burlington, Vermont. Smiley On second thought maybe I'll tell my parents because I LOVE Boston and SF. Of course they would probably ship me off to Georgia to be taught by the Baptists.
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2013, 10:28:40 AM »

Wow, here I thought my coming out to my parents was a big act of courage. Apparently heteros can't even tell their own parents that they support same-sex marriage now. So brave.
I'd highly recommend you not tell your parents or anyone from Church, or they may ship you off to Kenya now instead of having one of "them kind" around.  K? Thx.

I don't dare tell my family.  I haven't even fully come out in support on facebook, yet.  I have plenty of friends on both sides of the issue.
I don't dare tell mine either. My father just said this morning that "this had better not pass or this country is done"

Well, Matt, if you were 31 like Bushie, I'd mock you for this......but it's hard to mock Bushie even, considering he lives in BFE and the anti-gay climate there.
Hell if my parents were even a little bit open about the issue then I would tell them. I love them, and they don't hate gay people, but just to give you perspective, their best friends from our church are friends with James f[inks] Dobson of all people.

...yet they live in a state with gay marriage. How ironic.
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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2013, 10:38:59 AM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

God's calling you to Kenya.......tell Mom and Dad and you're there!  For good, too!

Probably would be, or my parents would think "that's giving him what he wants, so instead we'll ship him off in exile to a 'non-American' liberal city like Boston or San Francisco..."
Or the king of American small cities Burlington, Vermont. Smiley On second thought maybe I'll tell my parents because I LOVE Boston and SF. Of course they would probably ship me off to Georgia to be taught by the Baptists.

Or, I might be given a one way plane ticket to Barrow, Alaska, but they would collect my coat at the OKC airport...
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2013, 11:57:51 AM »

I like this plot twist. I have a feeling BushOK will eventually tell his parents, and their reaction will be the most hyped cliffhanger since the Tiffanye plot arc.
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM »

So, Bushie makes a thread about how a year from now he will support Same-Sex Marriage? Isn't that a little weird.
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2013, 12:59:27 PM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

Well in that case don't tell them!  That mobile home is your only link with survival.
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2013, 03:05:09 PM »

I'm sure young Southern whites who supported integration couldn't bring it up to their parents and grandparents in the 50s and 60s either.  Bushie doesn't need to tell them anything as long as he holds firm in the voting booth.  That's all that's important.
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2013, 03:08:24 PM »

I'm sure young Southern whites who supported integration couldn't bring it up to their parents and grandparents in the 50s and 60s either.  Bushie doesn't need to tell them anything as long as he holds firm in the voting booth.  That's all that's important.

It doesn't matter what Bushie does in the voting booth in Oklahoma.
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« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2013, 03:16:27 PM »

I'm sure young Southern whites who supported integration couldn't bring it up to their parents and grandparents in the 50s and 60s either.  Bushie doesn't need to tell them anything as long as he holds firm in the voting booth.  That's all that's important.

It doesn't matter what Bushie does in the voting booth in Oklahoma.

Not yet, not yet.
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2013, 05:54:47 PM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

Your parents condition their relationship with you on your opinion on a political issue?
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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2013, 05:59:50 PM »
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I'd highly recommend you not tell your parents or anyone from Church, or they may ship you off to Kenya now instead of having one of "them kind" around.  K? Thx.

I don't dare tell my family.  I haven't even fully come out in support on facebook, yet.  I have plenty of friends on both sides of the issue.

I consider courage the next most important virtue to honesty of all the virtues myself. I can't tolerate dishonesty, and disdain cowardice. However, you don't need to be in their face about, and put down your parents' views on this matter. You can just politely say that yours have evolved. We are all a work in progress during our respective tenures on this mortal coil until we revert to the dust from whence we came.  It's a matter of conscience.  Surely your parents respect one's individual conscience do they not? Or is intolerance the coin of the realm in their world?
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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2013, 07:10:17 PM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

Your parents condition their relationship with you on your opinion on a political issue?


Obviously, that's an exaggeration.  The thing is I don't want to let them down.  It took a lot of courage to even tell them I voted for President Obama in 2008 and even more again in 2012.  They are not very receptive to Democratic ideals.  They are dyed-in-the-wool Republicans.  In fact, Mom is still harps at me for voting for Obama in 2012.  They don't bring it up much and are not hostile when they do, but you can tell they don't like Obama.  They didn't like Romney, either, so they don't exactly say I voted "wrong", just probably could have voted Republican.  I still haven't told them I voted for John Kerry in 2004.  They still think I voted for President Bush.  They know I'm a registered Democrat, but that's all they know.  We don't talk politics very often with each other.
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« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2013, 07:12:47 PM »

I'd highly recommend you not tell your parents or anyone from Church, or they may ship you off to Kenya now instead of having one of "them kind" around.  K? Thx.

I don't dare tell my family.  I haven't even fully come out in support on facebook, yet.  I have plenty of friends on both sides of the issue.

I consider courage the next most important virtue to honesty of all the virtues myself. I can't tolerate dishonesty, and disdain cowardice. However, you don't need to be in their face about, and put down your parents' views on this matter. You can just politely say that yours have evolved. We are all a work in progress during our respective tenures on this mortal coil until we revert to the dust from whence we came.  It's a matter of conscience.  Surely your parents respect one's individual conscience do they not? Or is intolerance the coin of the realm in their world?

I'm sure if it came up in conversation, I would tell them, but we don't talk politics very often.  They know I'm a Democrat and are okay with that and even have defended me on occasion though they are staunch Republicans.  I'm sure it wouldn't be that big of a deal if I were to tell them.  They would be very disappointed in me, but they would learn to accept my decision.  I just will not bring it up out of the blue.
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« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2013, 07:17:46 PM »

Here is the reason for my new found support.

I know what the Bible says about marriage, but it also tells me not to judge anybody and to love everyone.  I refuse to deny people the chance to be happy.  I refuse to degrade and dehumanize and discriminate against someone who is attracted to the same sex like a lot of right-wing programs have been known to do.  I know what the Bible says.  But, I also knows that it tells me to love all of God's children and let Him be the judge.  Judging someone for who they love is not in my job description and is no longer in my personal code of ethics.  If it is a sin, then I still can't judge because I am not without sin.  Jesus said to the accusers of the woman who was caught committing adultery, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."  They all left from the eldest to the youngest.

There's a logical problem to your argument.  Not believing that gay marriage should be allowed doesn't mean that you are judging them or not loving them.
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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2013, 07:19:55 PM »

I'd highly recommend you not tell your parents or anyone from Church, or they may ship you off to Kenya now instead of having one of "them kind" around.  K? Thx.

I don't dare tell my family.  I haven't even fully come out in support on facebook, yet.  I have plenty of friends on both sides of the issue.

That's ridiculous.  I mean, it's one thing if you aren't publicly political and you don't share your views.  But it bugs me when people who are political about their politics are secretive about where they disagree with their main ideology.  Of course... this is probably why large portions of the Michigan GOP hate me, but that's another story.
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« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2013, 07:21:30 PM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

Your parents condition their relationship with you on your opinion on a political issue?


Obviously, that's an exaggeration.  The thing is I don't want to let them down.  It took a lot of courage to even tell them I voted for President Obama in 2008 and even more again in 2012.  They are not very receptive to Democratic ideals.  They are dyed-in-the-wool Republicans.  In fact, Mom is still harps at me for voting for Obama in 2012.  They don't bring it up much and are not hostile when they do, but you can tell they don't like Obama.  They didn't like Romney, either, so they don't exactly say I voted "wrong", just probably could have voted Republican.  I still haven't told them I voted for John Kerry in 2004.  They still think I voted for President Bush.  They know I'm a registered Democrat, but that's all they know.  We don't talk politics very often with each other.

You lie to your parents about who you voted for?
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« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2013, 07:21:46 PM »

Gotta say, I don't get the "I can't tell my parents my political beliefs" people. Everybody is allowed to believe what they want. What's the big f'ing deal?
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« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2013, 07:24:20 PM »

Why would he tell them something that would clearly upset them? If they directly ask him he can tell them what he believes, but there's no reason to go around flaunting it.
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« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2013, 07:24:42 PM »

If I told my parents, I would probably be living in exile for a number of years...

Your parents condition their relationship with you on your opinion on a political issue?


Obviously, that's an exaggeration.  The thing is I don't want to let them down.  It took a lot of courage to even tell them I voted for President Obama in 2008 and even more again in 2012.  They are not very receptive to Democratic ideals.  They are dyed-in-the-wool Republicans.  In fact, Mom is still harps at me for voting for Obama in 2012.  They don't bring it up much and are not hostile when they do, but you can tell they don't like Obama.  They didn't like Romney, either, so they don't exactly say I voted "wrong", just probably could have voted Republican.  I still haven't told them I voted for John Kerry in 2004.  They still think I voted for President Bush.  They know I'm a registered Democrat, but that's all they know.  We don't talk politics very often with each other.

You lie to your parents about who you voted for?

I have never told them who I voted for in 2004.  They assume I voted for Bush because that's how I was brought up and who they voted for and that's who I voted for in 2000.
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« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2013, 07:31:00 PM »

Here is the reason for my new found support.

I know what the Bible says about marriage, but it also tells me not to judge anybody and to love everyone.  I refuse to deny people the chance to be happy.  I refuse to degrade and dehumanize and discriminate against someone who is attracted to the same sex like a lot of right-wing programs have been known to do.  I know what the Bible says.  But, I also knows that it tells me to love all of God's children and let Him be the judge.  Judging someone for who they love is not in my job description and is no longer in my personal code of ethics.  If it is a sin, then I still can't judge because I am not without sin.  Jesus said to the accusers of the woman who was caught committing adultery, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."  They all left from the eldest to the youngest.

There's a logical problem to your argument.  Not believing that gay marriage should be allowed doesn't mean that you are judging them or not loving them.

I agree with that, but it still is discriminatory and doesn't affect my faith.
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